Looking at someone's start shows their core personality. That game mirrors what's happening here and your objection is "find something newer". That's moving the goal posts. I think anyone should see that.
I shouldn't have to explain this to you. The only way you could be missing the point here is if you're doing it on purpose.
We are talking here about your current opinion on slip arguments and the likelihood you would make one that everyone else in the game thinks is not grounded in reality.
An instance from 10 years ago where you didn't actually understand what a slip argument actually was (because that was tone) does not show us that you currently think slip arguments might hold merit.
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
With the way this game is designed I see Titus's push today as trying to get me mislimmed knowing she can skip town tonight so it doesn't matter how bad she looks after I flip town.
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i dunno if i believe this is a real thought
In post 2114, jjh927 wrote:
The biggest single thing that gets me is definitely the Alisae hammer
But on the other side Titus did try to wagon someone else and get her townreads to cooperate. Just, it went completely south in the end. I was being very literal when I said Titus was throwing away her towncred to hammer Alisae. It made it near impossible for me to read her based on my normal Titus alignment metric.
The whole Ydrasse "slip" thing is kinda interesting because Titus finds that kind of crap as both alignments and doesn't ever have the awareness to understand that it's heavily flawed and not persuasive to anyone else. I'm mainly leaning town from that particular piece of the puzzle from where she said Prism would have jumped on it in scum!Prism town!Ydrasse world, as though she has presented some golden opportunity that scum would surely follow. Made it seem like she does really believe it.
this feels like actual solving
In post 2123, jjh927 wrote:
and I would probably just opt to remove STD from the game and hope we got lucky
this does not
In post 2155, Firebringer wrote:
Theres a general problem whenever Titus uses the argument of wagons and vote history as an argument of someone alignment.
That general problem is, It can argued both ways as any alignment, ever.
Theres no straightforward consistency in applying it and saying "Ohh Titus believes this because this is how Titus town views the game" because she can easily put forward the argument as scum to say what she wants when she wants to say it and she has crafted these VCA arguments before as scum. Theres nothing clear in those to say this is town or scum titus line of thinking its like extremely null.
So when you say things like "this makes sense as a titus thought" I go "yeah thats not useful at all for determining if that analysis is townie because she could have that thought as scum so easily its not worth talking about"
Like the imaginality vote was bad because when and how it was done. to be honest i am still null on imaganlity and should really hold a view there, but I can cite you at least one former game i played with imaganlity and I can tell u, I tunneled him there because i felt like it was an easy push to get away with as scum and I was right there.
Does that make him town here, obviously not. I am just saying I can see any scum easily pushing imaginality because ive done that shit.
fire is town
i'm really tunneled on imaginality. everything just looks fake to me but if i'm wrong i'll be devistated.
In post 2309, T3 wrote:
Can someone please recap where the townreads on Titus are coming from?
Titus feels like frustrated town to me. i feel like i could be wrong but it's consistent throughout her play today.
In post 2413, Ydrasse wrote:
i think even if titus is town (and i doubt it!) i fundamentally cannot work with her and it’ll all just continue to be an obnoxious distraction.
i’ve already posted about it in my iso but she’s not really… reacting to anything and has been static most of the game (and one of these reads is her insistently pushing a slip no one like… thinks is anything to the point of insanity and won’t listen which i feel is strange but this is tangential) is attempting to barter/strike deals to get something she wants at a point in the game where wolves can do that before immediately skipping out and in general and is working a lot with trying to like scare people into doing things “will lose if i die” type of rhetoric
maybe but idk at a certain point this just is… if this is town titus there’s no way to get through to her imho. she’s going to say post stuff that convinces her etc but her heels are dug in and i genuinely believe if she was town she would be more amenable to give an inch to other arguments
think that her acting like this as a wolf and sopping up attention makes sense too, being a brick wall people beat their heads against wastes time and energy
Because no one has evidence. Scum are begging to change my mind with no cohesive arguments. They all omgus me. No one townreads imaginality. I can walk through my solve for the 50th time if you want.
