Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[jjh927]

Okay Titus, so,

Your whole slip thing.

You think Ydrasse voted patchwork based on an outdated post in the scum PT.
You think Ydrasse's scumbuddies are me and imaginality
I would say we can rule out Imaginality making such a post in the scum PT based on activity and public reads which leaves me

Just gonna stop at this point for a minute to ask you a question
Do you think I made a post telling my scumbuddies to vote for patchwork around the time I made the post in the main thread where I voted for patchwork? Or is your theory something else

[jjh927]

Like, you've gone into some very specific conclusions from this reasoning so let's really deep dive rather than just plucking shit from the air

[Titus]

Contradict imaginality is scum or vote him. I'm not convincing you to claim scum. I'm not really caring what you and Ydrasse say as much.

We just need a lim.

[Titus]

Okay Titus, so,

Your whole slip thing.

You think Ydrasse voted patchwork based on an outdated post in the scum PT.
You think Ydrasse's scumbuddies are me and imaginality
I would say we can rule out Imaginality making such a post in the scum PT based on activity and public reads which leaves me

Just gonna stop at this point for a minute to ask you a question
Do you think I made a post telling my scumbuddies to vote for patchwork around the time I made the post in the main thread where I voted for patchwork? Or is your theory something else

All someone has to say is vote patchwork. Ydrasse reads that before reading the thread.

You're trying to make additional points to make me look outlandish.

[Ydrasse]

this is theatre not in the mafia way but in the dramatic way

[camelCasedSnivy]

Was it literally just Shirou

firebringer ydrssse (and gob and andres i would arue too)

Okay so

snivy whats ur read list

gob andres shirou
you and ydrasse
everyone else (those god dang lowposters)
alisae
prism

off the top of my head

Same as 2000 pages ago? But you're less confident on your townreads now?

yes

[Titus]

We can save Ydrasse for tomorrow. I don't need to prove my entire team right today. If you're town, vote the scum everybody agrees on rather than nitpicking my arguments on other slots. I'm never going to convince you to claim scum jjh. If you're town, constantly trying to show I'm wrong on other slots while providing no solve of your own isn't how to show it. That reads as scum panic deflecting from the fact we all know imaginality is scum.

[Titus]

Guess what happens if imaginality flips? We get 5 conftown. That'll be strong evidence for my theory or disprove it. Win win.

The only reason to not vote imaginality is if you think he's town, you're scum with him or in Prism's case proud af.

[jjh927]

Okay Titus, so,

Your whole slip thing.

You think Ydrasse voted patchwork based on an outdated post in the scum PT.
You think Ydrasse's scumbuddies are me and imaginality
I would say we can rule out Imaginality making such a post in the scum PT based on activity and public reads which leaves me

Just gonna stop at this point for a minute to ask you a question
Do you think I made a post telling my scumbuddies to vote for patchwork around the time I made the post in the main thread where I voted for patchwork? Or is your theory something else

All someone has to say is vote patchwork. Ydrasse reads that before reading the thread.

You're trying to make additional points to make me look outlandish.

I was trying to make you elaborate beyond that somehow the only possible source of outdated information is the scum PT tbh

[jjh927]

Even if Ydrasse WAS scum the vote is more likely to have come from looking at an old votecount and seeing the wagon forming

[jjh927]

But okay I guess you want logic and evidence from someone else even though arguments stand on their own?

[jjh927]

How do you reconcile Imaginality and Ydrasse having near opposite reads and this actually being brought up by Ydrasse

[Titus]

Okay Titus, so,

Your whole slip thing.

You think Ydrasse voted patchwork based on an outdated post in the scum PT.
You think Ydrasse's scumbuddies are me and imaginality
I would say we can rule out Imaginality making such a post in the scum PT based on activity and public reads which leaves me

Just gonna stop at this point for a minute to ask you a question
Do you think I made a post telling my scumbuddies to vote for patchwork around the time I made the post in the main thread where I voted for patchwork? Or is your theory something else

All someone has to say is vote patchwork. Ydrasse reads that before reading the thread.

You're trying to make additional points to make me look outlandish.

I was trying to make you elaborate beyond that somehow the only possible source of outdated information is the scum PT tbh

Either a) Ydrasse read the scum pt and voted or b) she decided to vote my slot without reading bc wagon. Both are scum.

[Titus]

But okay I guess you want logic and evidence from someone else even though arguments stand on their own?

Bogging the thread down is how scum win.

[Titus]

Also, disclaimer, I am a bit out of it due to IRL.

[jjh927]

But okay I guess you want logic and evidence from someone else even though arguments stand on their own?

Bogging the thread down is how scum win.

Right so all your posts complaining about how nobody is listening to you are useful but me trying to appeal directly to you in every way under the sun is bogging the thread down

[Titus]

But okay I guess you want logic and evidence from someone else even though arguments stand on their own?

Bogging the thread down is how scum win.

Right so all your posts complaining about how nobody is listening to you are useful but me trying to appeal directly to you in every way under the sun is bogging the thread down

You aren't appealing to me. You're discrediting me. I've told you how to work with me. The amount of time you spend arguing over what you think I'm wrong on says more.

If Imaginality flips scum, what happens?

[T3]

Titus's theory of the game.

Alisae is town or working for the scumteam accidentally. I fear the latter.

Ydrasse is scum fearing a revitalization of the game.

The vote on "patchwork" can only be explained by him reading the scum PT and it not having been updated.

This suggests most of the active posters are town as active posters would have alerted Ydrasse to the fact I was not lurkerbait anymore.

Ydrasse's reaction is precisely what I'd expect from scum losing a beard.

Based on this I suspect StD town.

This was the initial "Ydrasse slipped" post and it feels so fucking INSANE to someone that's apparently skeptical of slips.

Even if you say "This time I just think scum slipped for real", the "can ONLY be explained by a slip" is so weird when Ydrasse can just...not have read the game too closely?

It's like, a trivial explanation that's entirely dismissed and it only makes sense if believing in dubious slips is usual behavior for Titus but that does not seem to be the case.

Okay that's pretty damning.
VOTE: Titus

[T3]

Maybe it's not that damning though...

Maybe my bar for Titus' logic as town is set too low though

[imaginality]

People have already noted Titus making a big deal of Shirou not sheeping her today isn't warranted but I agree with jjh that Titus's play today seems like scum aiming to drain town's energy. She's trying to push through a mislim by treating it as a foregone conclusion.

Which makes me feel less good about Firebringer because of posts like this.

like yes, if she is scum she is going to leave but like....i kind of dont care

I think this is a good point:

Titus thinks all her scumreads are unreasonably pushing her which surely only proves that she is exactly right

Although if you ask her about some other slots then there is no way that all scum would be on the same wagon

Since my previous posts (aside from the one liner) I looked again at the time line and yeah my Prism-gob paranoia was probably indeed just paranoia. Although of the two, I still feel a bit wary of gob individually.

StD's recent posts fit with being a potential Titus buddy, offering a townread on her and support for my lim. Albeit seems possibly a bit risky to do that as a scumbuddy in this game though, where we only need to catch one scum. But maybe a risk worth taking.

Andres's recent posts were underwhelming.

I'm thinking the game structure means there are advantages to at least one or two scum being noncommittal (whether by being lurky or by being wishywashy) and hard to connect to their buddies. Considering they can't distance too hard cos ending up bussing would be bad from them D1/D2 and game ending after that, and distancing but then not wanting to see someone limmed is easier to spot as a progression compared with absent or null reads. I mean sure then there's wifom on top and all that but still.

Town: jjh, Shirou, T3, Prism
Lean town: camel
Mixed: Firebringer, Andres
Lean scum: gob, Ydrasse
Scum: Titus, StD

[Ydrasse]

the legendary titus ydrasse scumteam

[T3]

I'm getting flashbacks to Titus in MBOS 13 when she was limmed day 1

I think Titus has to go no matter what though, this speculation right now is useless

[jjh927]

I am trying to make you see where you're wrong because theoretically that should make you reevaluate if you are town

[Dannflor]

under

[Dannflor]

the sea