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[Black]

BlackStar just seems to be reaching here but it also could be conf bias

[BlackStar]

This feels opportunistic to me. You're casting shade on them without explicitly saying that you think they're scum which will make it easy to hop on the wagon later if it gains momentum

Huh? Why would he explicitly say he thinks their scum if he doesn't think that? Did you read his post or?

I said that it seems like he's setting the scene to hop on the wagon later on. That's why his post was negative towards python but ended with him putting them down as null. He's sitting on the fence and seeing how things play out

[BlackStar]

BlackStar just seems to be reaching here but it also could be conf bias

Maybe

[Thestatusquo]

I don't really like the way blackstar is interacting with the game.

[Black]

This feels opportunistic to me. You're casting shade on them without explicitly saying that you think they're scum which will make it easy to hop on the wagon later if it gains momentum

Huh? Why would he explicitly say he thinks their scum if he doesn't think that? Did you read his post or?

I said that it seems like he's setting the scene to hop on the wagon later on. That's why his post was negative towards python but ended with him putting them down as null. He's sitting on the fence and seeing how things play out

I did something similar yesterday when I reevaluated my Steady read after looking at his past games, but you said you liked my posts. Did you like my posts just because everyone else did? I feel like if you're town here then you would have questioned my Steady stance a little more

[AnimatedWiz]

You already mentioned earlier that you town read them, so that wouldn't have worked

What I’m saying is, I could’ve just said I changed my mind in the first post I made and said all the stuff about, “they’ve become less clear over time and have been really passive,” instead of saying something that turned out to not be true first.

Unfortunately, it’s just that I held the town’s idiot ball for a bit.

P.E.: I think BlackStar is town—this feels like him last game, and a lot of the logic he’s using makes sense to me if he’s applying stuff he learned in the last game here to sort me.

[Black]

P.E.: I think BlackStar is town—this feels like him last game

I agree with this and that's kinda why I'm thinking this could be conf bias

[Black]

To be clear I agree it feels kinda like him last game but I wouldn't say I think he's town

[BlackStar]

This feels opportunistic to me. You're casting shade on them without explicitly saying that you think they're scum which will make it easy to hop on the wagon later if it gains momentum

Huh? Why would he explicitly say he thinks their scum if he doesn't think that? Did you read his post or?

I said that it seems like he's setting the scene to hop on the wagon later on. That's why his post was negative towards python but ended with him putting them down as null. He's sitting on the fence and seeing how things play out

I did something similar yesterday when I reevaluated my Steady read after looking at his past games, but you said you liked my posts. Did you like my posts just because everyone else did? I feel like if you're town here then you would have questioned my Steady stance a little more

You did a page by page explanation of your thoughts on everyone's posts. And right after you made that post about being how he could've potentially imitated his town meta, you said that you decided to town read him. I liked the transparency in your thought process.

That's not the same thing as Wiz pointing out his problems with python and then saying that he was null on them. And after looking back at that point in the game, I didn't see anyone say that they liked your posts before me

[BlackStar]

You already mentioned earlier that you town read them, so that wouldn't have worked

What I’m saying is, I could’ve just said I changed my mind in the first post I made and said all the stuff about, “they’ve become less clear over time and have been really passive,” instead of saying something that turned out to not be true first.

Unfortunately, it’s just that I held the town’s idiot ball for a bit.

P.E.: I think BlackStar is town—this feels like him last game, and a lot of the logic he’s using makes sense to me if he’s applying stuff he learned in the last game here to sort me.

Okay, I get your point.

And I probably am comparing you to that game a bit even though I'm trying to not rely on meta

[BlackStar]

I don't really like the way blackstar is interacting with the game.

What don't you like?

[Black]

Ok, that's fair. I still think it's not unreasonable for Annie to put python in the null pile after townreading them and then finding out his main reason for townreading them wasn't really accurate

[BlackStar]

Ok, that's fair. I still think it's not unreasonable for Annie to put python in the null pile after townreading them and then finding out his main reason for townreading them wasn't really accurate

Yeah, I guess

[Black]

What do your reads look like BlackStar

[BlackStar]

Town Lean

TheHoldSteady
Roden
OutworldER
Thestatusquo
Black

Null

Wartortle
usesPython
Hu Tao
Smiley
Enchant
Naerys

Scum Lean

AnimatedWiz

[AnimatedWiz]

Does it seem to you like he's actually trying to make the lims he wants happen?

After rereading his ISO, I think you have a point about him not trying hard to push his reads through. Before I saw him as being willing to change his reads and adapt, but now it feels like he's just shifting his vote to anyone for weak reasons

Just to clarify, you said this and then put Wartortle at the top of your neutral reads, right? Did anything happen in between these two points?

[Black]

Town Lean

TheHoldSteady
Roden
OutworldER
Thestatusquo
Black

Null

Wartortle
usesPython
Hu Tao
Smiley
Enchant
Naerys

Scum Lean

AnimatedWiz

Thanks. Can you talk about your Smiley read a little?

[SmileyDude1]

I am not scum lol, stop pushing me smiley

Can I have you respond to 354. Cause right now the progression shown there is pinging me as too sudden currently.

[SmileyDude1]

I don't really know how to feel about python. Does anyone else have any reads on them?

@Smiley why is python your top townread?

I mentioned why in my 276, a good chunk of it is more of a vibe read for me.

[usesPython]

What is bothering me about python is that they say they mentally checked out from the game once Wiz vs. DE started happening, but I'm not noticing a difference in their posts pre and post DE/Wiz. They have pretty much the same attitude towards the game in regards to giving minimal reads and sheeping people

Like it kinda just seems like an excuse not to give reads or really play the game, especially considering the DE/Wiz argument wasn't nasty at all but rather fairly civil, so why did the walls take an emotional toll on python? Why did they accuse DE70 of tunneling in 226 if they didn't even read the walls they posted?

I'm willing to give python the benefit of the doubt if they are actually not feeling this game but something feels weird about how they have managed to position themselves on certain wagons while not actually doing much

It's invisible cause timezones lined up to have literally everyone posting only while we're asleep so we couldn't do our normal convo style of posting even before people started walling

And it's not anything to do with civility, we just can't really handle long posts that aren't directed at us; especially if they don't really have anything we can actually understand like most of the meta cases going on

220 we read cause it was the newest post and easy to digest, and we called DE out for tunneling cause we were townreading him for the Enchant case but couldn't see where he was coming from at all with the Wiz line

[usesPython]

Like it looks like we're sheeping people cause half the time people stole our takes while we were asleep, posts like 202 were the few times we didn't get sniped

[Black]

Ok, I'm fine with that answer for now, in particular the "long posts that aren't directed at us"...I can relate to that

[AnimatedWiz]

Like it looks like we're sheeping people cause half the time people stole our takes while we were asleep, posts like 202 were the few times we didn't get sniped

The stuff about time zones makes sense, because a lot of content is generated when y’all aren’t active, but I’m still a little confused—in 267, y’all said you were sheeping.

[usesPython]

Like it looks like we're sheeping people cause half the time people stole our takes while we were asleep, posts like 202 were the few times we didn't get sniped

The stuff about time zones makes sense, because a lot of content is generated when y’all aren’t active, but I’m still a little confused—in 267, y’all said you were sheeping.

Doesn't sheeping mean you're voting someone for the same reason someone else is?

[usesPython]

I think this is just terminology, people were posting cases we'd make before we'd have a chance to make them so we followed the cases cause they were literally the same case we'd make if they didn't post anything