Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Prism]

Firebringer, you seem to have Andres low in the pool but prefer other slots. Can you talk about that choice?

[Firebringer]

only if you promise to scumread me

[Lazy Shirou]

I'm a bit confused as to how that ties into T3/Dragons. If you're arguing that it makes you town, probably. My read on that set of posts is that he townread you earlier in the game and that follows.

It's a bit of a stretch perhaps but I had made a comment about him scum posting, and I was also throwing shade at T3/StD around that time.

He seemed to see me as sort of a good player and that may have been because I was on scum early on

dunno, it just felt weird for him to say what he did without having ever played with me before

[Firebringer]

not the biggest stretch even of this game. Still can't believe Titus was dead set on Ydrasse was scum for a slip that wasn't a slip

[Lazy Shirou]

if it wasn't for the slip thing I probably would have hard defended Titus

but it was such a trip to try to wrap my head around that argument coming from town...

I think even if Ydra is scum, that probably wasn't a slip, but who knows...

[Lazy Shirou]

I guess I've set my mind on what I want today.

Preferably T3, after that StD, and I can compromise on Andres if Prism wants me to closer to the deadline.

I'm tired after using my remaining brain juice so I'm going back to just shitposting/chilling here

[Lazy Shirou]

if JJH is scum I think his partner is one of T3/Andres, maybe Imaginality.

so yeah, hopefully my pool today wins the game often enough.

[Lazy Shirou]

It had slipped my mind that there's one important thing to do while we're in the ANUKET TOPAZ guys...

that thing is...

Sing sea shanties!!!

[Lazy Shirou]

WHAT WILL WE DO WITH A SCUMMY SAILOR?

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH A SCUMMY SAILOR?

WHAT TO DO WITH A SCUMMY SAILOR?!

EARLYYYYYYYY IN THE DAYPHASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

VOTE: T3
VOTE: T3
VOTE: T3

[Lazy Shirou]

SHAVE HIS

FLIP

WITH A RUSTY VOTE!
SHAVE HIS

LIFE

WITH A RUSTY VOTE!
SHAVE HIS

WINCON

WITH A RUSTY VOTE!

EARLY IN THE DAYPHASEEEEEEEEEEEE!

WAY HAY AND UP THE WAGON RISES!
WAY HAY AND UP THE WAGON RISES!
WAY HAY AND UP THE WAGON RISES!

EARLY IN THE DAYPHASEEEEEEEEEEE!

[T3]

Is there really more than 1 person voting me

[T3]

Anyways you should read Prism's reasons for townreading me, not just from my side of the interactions I had with camel but he talks about camel's too

[T3]

Also if I'm scum then why do I vote Firebringer here lol

[Firebringer]

I mean to pretend like ur doing something? U have yet to even explain the vote

[gob]

I've liked some of T3's posts, especially the more recent ones. Just reads as town to me. Yea he isn't doing much but idk most people aren't.

[Prism]

I'd need to reread T3 before I defend him and I'm not doing that right now so

[Prism]

Look I actually want to finish reading before I keep going with this. I don’t think I’m fully up to date and it makes it harder to be helpful. So let me try to do that.

What a shame he didn't actually finish reading nor move onto step 2, which was actually checking his own reads for soundness.

Here I thought we'd made progress when he essentially admitted I was right across the board when I said the reasons put forward for being Andres being hardtown were bad to NAI.

[Prism]

And before you show up to protest Andres, I'd much rather you spend time evaluating the other side of the gob argument instead of barrelling down your own. Most of my points (and Shirou's that I reference) are direct responses to the scum-gob points.

First and foremost, I'm asking you to return the favor

[Prism]

Somewhere out there Ydrasse is living life like she's "the worst", simply watching town rip each others' eyeballs out, munching on pretzels, and going to sleep at a reasonable hour.

[Ydrasse]

invoked

[Ydrasse]

cat, on table, knocking over glass here

i am less certain that i would vote andres as i was the last time i posted. i feel more ok with a t3 or dragons vote. the direct appeals are having impact
i keep going through the same isos as if to get new answers and then i dont get answers that i want

[Ydrasse]

prism, gob, shirou, firebringer
jjh927
imaginality (?) (this person has faded from my memory)
t3, andres, dragons

im swinging around to prefer dragons i think. idk. i keep wavering.

[Prism]

Pinching the bridge of my nose and groaning. Please God just make me wrong on Andres instead of making me do Eurybia's Curse again.

[Andresvmb]

I don’t know if this will mean anything, but I’ve now read to page ~91. This is how I have the game:

Strong Lean Town
{Ydrasse, Shirou, Firebringer}
Lean Town
{SaveTheDragons, jjh927}
Slight Lean Town
{T3, imaginality}
Uncertain
{ }
Slight Lean Scum
{ }
Lean Scum
{gob, Prism}

I’m finding it really annoying that this is the Team I’m arriving at. But yeah, that’s what I got. These are some stray thoughts:

1445 is a Shirou post that I think is a net negative. After Prism returns for a vote on camel, Shirou looks to pile on more pressure on Alisae, and then shops for votes there as a counter.


The interaction between jjh and Titus around 1574 is a real downer. I had just a hard TR on jjh, but the sidelining of a Town slot who was correctly defending Alisae and more importantly, was trying to build coalitions to root out Scum, is a massive red flag. Not a good look.


1579 - I don’t know how many times I have seen Scum justify an execution for “information”. This is really concerning.


1599 - @jjh, do you really believe this?

1673 - If it had been decided by this point that camel was going to escape if not executed, this is the sort of distancing that really makes a lot of sense. I was leaning on saying that this should clear jjh given that camel seems to be setting up jjh for an actual execution. Except that now that I know jjh was not executed, I need to see how insistent camel was about this.

1681 - This is actually pretty terrible.

1812 - Interesting interaction. It almost deflates any air in the Shirou is Scum balloon.

1816 - The insistence on not being sorry for flipping Town almost makes me want to think they’re Town. I would have thought Scum would maybe have a bit less ego about it? Or at least attract less attention to their positioning on the push?

After reading page 74, I can safely conclude Ydrasse is Town.


1876 - This is actually pretty solid.

1908 - This is SO SALTY from STD.

1925 - This is a classic concession that the player in question is in fact Town and too difficult to push.

1928 - Isn’t this just a clear sign that imaginality is Town?

2077 - This is a key vote at an important moment, wagon building. I didn’t like Firebringer’s readslist (but this is hindsight - them placing camel towards the bottom and them escaping is part of the problem). But this vote? Really helps change my perception there.

2093 - This is too clever under pressure for Scum.

2104 - The fact that camel felt compelled to respond in this way, in part acknowledging the awkwardness of reaching out to a SR, is sufficiently convincing. I’m good with Firebringer.

2152 - Hard to dislike Shirou after stuff like this.

2200 - This is absurdly suspicious. Completely unwilling to leave a vote on camel there is wild.

2246 - This pivot here looks even more fabricated. Ugh.

[Andresvmb]

I think Prism is gearing towards a 1v1 against me, which I will lose. Am I optimistic I can turn this ship around? No, not really.