Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.4

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-09 14:36:08).

Votecount

davesaz (2)

- Dannflor, gob

Roden (2)

- Black, Titus

Black (1)

- Doctor Drew

Crescent (1)

- Alisae

Doctor Drew (1)

- Crescent

gob (1)

- davesaz

pisskop (1)

- Roden

Something_Smart (1)

- Dunnstral

Titus (1)

- shaddowez

Not Voting (2)

- pisskop, Something_Smart

Flavour

[davesaz]

I started a vote for pagetopping and then realized it's the mod posting a vc.

[davesaz]

I need solid townreads this game, much more solid than typical for me^*. They need to be my reads, not merely consensus. Black's approach looks towny. I'd be hard pressed to remember anyone else who has even made an impression, though a big part of that has to do with RL distractions so I don't mean any offense by it.

^*A bit of self meta that should be verifiable by almost anyone who has played multiple games with me, I pretty much never lock anyone, especially in the case where a bunch of people say it's obv and I don't see it.

[Dunnstral]

I do not see what Roden has done that is scummy.

[shaddowez]

I do not see what Roden has done that is scummy.

I think it's the appearance of rolefishing in 23 and lack of interaction, but it also seems like people are looking to make it out to be a whole lot more. To me there was something off about the tone of his later posts, but that's gut and not something I'm ready to rely on just yet.

[Titus]

I need solid townreads this game, much more solid than typical for me^*. They need to be my reads, not merely consensus. Black's approach looks towny. I'd be hard pressed to remember anyone else who has even made an impression, though a big part of that has to do with RL distractions so I don't mean any offense by it.

^*A bit of self meta that should be verifiable by almost anyone who has played multiple games with me, I pretty much never lock anyone, especially in the case where a bunch of people say it's obv and I don't see it.

Ok. Think about this. Roden's probably froze and scum are hoping for a distraction.

[shaddowez]

Ok. Think about this. Roden's probably froze and scum are hoping for a distraction.

Depending what you mean by "froze" I think I agree with this

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[davesaz]

I need solid townreads this game, much more solid than typical for me^*. They need to be my reads, not merely consensus. Black's approach looks towny. I'd be hard pressed to remember anyone else who has even made an impression, though a big part of that has to do with RL distractions so I don't mean any offense by it.

^*A bit of self meta that should be verifiable by almost anyone who has played multiple games with me, I pretty much never lock anyone, especially in the case where a bunch of people say it's obv and I don't see it.

Ok. Think about this. Roden's probably froze and scum are hoping for a distraction.

Scumreads are good, got any townreads?

[davesaz]

I don't see Roden's posts as being very AI. I guess that means I'd have to look elsewhere to understand the frozen take.

[Black]

I'm not sure if Roden is frozen. It's more likely he has abandoned the website entirely

[Black]

Ok. Think about this. Roden's probably froze and scum are hoping for a distraction.

Depending what you mean by "froze" I think I agree with this

I think she means he's scum that doesn't know what to say after getting wagoned but I don't really think that's the case here

[Black]

According to the rules it takes 36 hours for a prod so I'm not sure why he hasn't been prodded yet

Also hi Alisae. Are you just going to prod dodge the entire game or what

[Dannflor]

im also here, apologies for my absence

[shaddowez]

I think she means he's scum that doesn't know what to say after getting wagoned but I don't really think that's the case here

Ok, not what I was thinking. I still agree that scum may be looking for a distraction, but not because that's already a scum wagon.

[Ausuka]

Prodding Roden

[davesaz]

I guess you're talking mostly about 138 if I remembered the post number correctly.

I can see how reading that from a point of view that it accurately conveys Roden's mindset (to put this another way, reading it as not containing any errors in explaining what Roden's thinking) would indicate that it is at least somewhat made up. The qualities expressed in the post (arguing to be "right" instead of to make a case) would not be AI at best and using them to townread people is suspect. I have doubts that it's as simple as this, but a townie should clear it up if what was posted doesn't express it right.

pedit: since someone else has brought it up, yes I lean toward absent over frozen

[Something_Smart]

Scum that wants to emphasize that they are doing nothing in order to continue doing nothing might do it. I'm not saying this makes Drew scum but I don't see how it clears him tbh

It's a pretty brazen play as scum to admit that you aren't doing anything and then just... keep not doing anything.

In retrospect though, that's not what he did, because his post right after this one did show some actual effort.

[Something_Smart]

Seems a bit too easy for Doctor Drew to be mafia. They aren't exactly hiding that they aren't doing much.

Dunnstral you havent been doing too much either. What's that about?

I don't have a scumread.

I want to think this post is towny but maybe I just appreciate the restraint.

I think it actually is towny though, iirc scum-Dunn kinda likes to control the game?

[Alisae]

Also hi Alisae. Are you just going to prod dodge the entire game or what

I am OCCUPIED

[Something_Smart]

Not a bad vote. Responded to me calling him out for making too many neutral sideline comments with a neutral sideline comment.

Nice to meet you, I'm Something_Smart. Expect many more comments where those came from.

[Black]

Also hi Alisae. Are you just going to prod dodge the entire game or what

I am OCCUPIED

Oh ok

[Something_Smart]

I don't try to hide the fact that most of my posts are what you would call "neutral sideline comments". I don't have a ton of substantive thoughts, especially early on, and so I figure it's better to be posting more, even if each individual post has relatively low (but not no) value. I am always open to people engaging me on specific topics, but I won't ever force a stance that I don't believe in, so don't come looking for a hard read one way or the other.

[Something_Smart]

I like dave's posting on this page.

[davesaz]

im also here, apologies for my absence

When you get a chance look at 189. Rebuttal is welcome. Others are also invited to check it out.