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[Firebringer]

towniest thing ive seen t3 do this game is just decide to move away from andres. I guess they could be aligned and doesn't want to bus

[Firebringer]

You are not unique in that regard. I do not defer to other players' skill, purported or actual, period.

u should defter to my skill. I am super bad at this game

[Prism]

(Note for completeness: I do defer on some meta reads where subjective knowledge is king.)

[gob]

sorry was busy hiding out in the scum pt

whats the reason im scum again gob. vote count analysis or something?

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[gob]

(Note for completeness: I do defer on some meta reads where subjective knowledge is king.)

Oh no... the one thing you SHOULDNT defer to someone on.

[Firebringer]

yeah there is nothing for me to engage with u on this "read" gob. This is why i say vca can be construed to mean anything.

[gob]

I'm out of energy. Get him for me Prism.

[Prism]

Unfortunately, Fire is 100% right even if he's scum.

[Prism]

At this rate perhaps Andres and I should hold hands and vote gob after all.

[Prism]

towniest thing ive seen t3 do this game is just decide to move away from andres. I guess they could be aligned and doesn't want to bus

did u not like any of their camel interactions

is puppy so high brow and skeptical that they mean so little

[Firebringer]

on this day i am a butterfly

[gob]

How is that a nothing read?

Firebringer/Ydrasse/Andres/JJH has wolf 100% of the time

Firebringer/Andres is most reasonable small pool

Firebringer has been scummier than Andres, looking at his votes. His actions speak louder than words.

[gob]

Guys, like seriously. You must understand that I am not just making shit up.

Learn these terms "wolf on wagon" and "wolf off wagon"

We are hunting not players, but worlds. The winning combination.

[Firebringer]

the explaining of each vote being scummy would be a great start

[Prism]

Guys, like seriously. You must understand that I am not just making shit up.

Learn these terms "wolf on wagon" and "wolf off wagon"

We are hunting not players, but worlds. The winning combination.

You are greatly testing my patience. Not one have you introduced a novel concept to the players at this table. You are greatly overestimating yourself, but this is routine. The degree to which you are underestimating your peers is astounding.

[gob]

You and Ydrasse voting Titus? Or Andres, JJH being off wagon? I am not even looking at that.

The only thing I care about is who was not on the Alisae wagon. This pool contains a wolf, mechanically, because the mafia

have

to vote certain ways. I cannot explain exactly why, since I didn't really learn this myself I was just told about this "life hack" so to speak.
Let's take 9player for example

1. Day 1 is misboot = 1-2 wolf on wagon, 0-1 wolves off wagon. If the two wolves werent voting, you would be able to tell.
2. Day 2 you solve whichever pool is easier. With night kills you also kill on-wagon if the kill was off-wagon.

So for example

Gob, Alisae, Ydrasse, Titus, JJH, Exacerbated, Blinzer, Elijah, Deleter

Gob(5): Alisae, Ydrasse, Titus, JJH, Exacerbated
Alisae(3): Blinzer, Elijah, Deleter

NK is on Blinzer = wolf 100% on Gob wagon. Potentially spews Elijah & Deleter town.
NK is on Ydrasse = wolves on both wagons.

Basically. This is just correct 100% of the time. And I am using this sort of logic to reach my conclusions in this game. I feel like I've explained it a million times a million different ways at this point.

If you don't want to ruin the game by learning the cheat-sheet, that's fine, but just understand I am not pulling things out of my ass.

[Prism]

To return to the more substantive point, Firebringer actually voted scum and pushed for it at a time when jjh and myself were also inclined to go there. This is not dispositive and clearing. In contrast, Andres has voted Alisae, Shirou, Dragons, and yourself. You seem to think there is exactly 0 scum in those 4.

[Ydrasse]

i think im being threatened

[gob]

Guys, like seriously. You must understand that I am not just making shit up.

Learn these terms "wolf on wagon" and "wolf off wagon"

We are hunting not players, but worlds. The winning combination.

You are greatly testing my patience. Not one have you introduced a novel concept to the players at this table. You are greatly overestimating yourself, but this is routine. The degree to which you are underestimating your peers is astounding.

I'm not underestimating you guys lol. You think I'm Andres or T3 or whoever. But I am arguing my point. That is what this game is for, and I do NOT roll over quietly.

I am just explaining how I got to my reads. And I am saying, please just go use my last post and look at ANY random 9p game (that is not crazy weird setup). You will find what I say is true.

[gob]

Prism, I've been around the BLOCK my friend.

You are probably underestimating me to a certain extent.

[Andresvmb]

But yeah the most logical way to find some town players here is to look at who pushed Camel

But you're not doing that because your methodology seems to be more inclined to pick out large groups of players and say they contain scum rather than identifying town and working with POE in a sensible way

@jjh, why didn’t you find this Scummy? Isn’t the lack of real curiosity Scummy?

Separately, I think Shirou highlighting Titus’ inconsistent appreciation of slips towards the end of D2 (which I found very compelling as a stand-alone argument, even if Titus flipped Town) does further tilt me towards Shirou Town. That’s the sort of thing I do think is AI, funny enough. I also think that Shirou insisting on going through imaginality’s ISO when they could have just stuck with Titus and not moved is another positive.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: gob

the fact gob just keeps ignoring me pushing snivy and not just arguing that i was scum bussing is like so bad faith.

all these vote count arguments are obfuscating actual analysis.
gob could be town. Idc right now. This is boring

[Firebringer]

theres a scummy vote for u to analyze gob

[Prism]

My patience is now zero. If you are in fact the talent you think you are, I am happy to let you learn the hard way. I suspect you are not and you will not, like the thousands of others I have seen.

[Prism]

I cannot explain exactly why, since I didn't really learn this myself I was just told about this "life hack" so to speak.

somehow i missed this one and i am HOWLING