mini theme 2315 - love child (game over)

[Andante]

Agreed!
Got a general bad feeling about Andante but I checked her ISO and there were still little things I enjoyed. Conflicted there at this point

I got the feeling she tried to pocket you yesterday: 263, 369, 382. Strange progression.

369 was a joke, and 382 was explaining why my vote seemed "odd" cause drew said I voted for 0 reason... obviously it wasn't a serious vote

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: furtive
I feel solid on this vote rn

[Titus]

I think I may have found the thing? But I can't say I'm sure what it means here

It's vague?

[Andante]

and with that, im going to bed. finally have a day off tomorrow, but we''ll see how much of it i spend here, I think this shift to pushing me is garbage, especially because we have waited SO LONG into day 2 to go "lol im gonna vote andante and see what happens"

I was fully expecting a tunnel at the start of d2 for my stance on ircher. yes, day 1 I did have 1 moment I went "ircher is playing similar to DEFCON- not town" but never said anything in thread, I just had stronger SRs... felt like the sr on ircher was largely due to ircher just not playing, and pretty much no one on that wagon was giving reasoning behind their votes, just saying... but yeah, I was fully expecting it at the start... not now when it's all "andante feels alien" like, wtf you mean by that? I'm me, this is how I am. Sure it's not 2021-2022 Andante... this is the working andante, who recently changed departments and now do a lot more heavy lifting, leaving me... freaking exhausted when I get home, but guess what, I'm still giving my thoughts when I'm here, unlike some people...

[Titus]

I'm reading the rest of this tmo. Kinda frustrated. I expected reactions of somesort...but nothing...

[Skygazer]

votecount 2.05

Andante (3) - Hu Tao, furtiveglance, Meuh
Titus (2) - Aureal, Broccoli Quest 2
Aureal (2) - Titus, Doctor Drew
furtiveglance (2) - pisskop, Gamma Emerald
pisskop (1) - HighPrincessErinys

not voting

(1) - Andante

with eleven alive, it takes six votes to lose yourself in the music, the moment, you own it, etc etc. day two ends in (expired on 2023-11-12 23:15:00).

[Andante]

I'm reading the rest of this tmo. Kinda frustrated. I expected reactions of somesort...but nothing...

real quick, who are your top TRs/SRs?

[Meuh]

I think I may have found the thing? But I can't say I'm sure what it means here

It's vague?

Do you mean the word in like the factual tangible thing way or in the abstract concept way?

[Andante]

why can't you say what something means?

[HighPrincessErinys]

note to self to properly read the last 3 pages at a better time and do the titus ISO before tryin to rejoin the discourse

[furtiveglance]

I'm not loving meuh flipping to me here on this page, I just don't get why?

Hmm yes all of your voters are scum

[pisskop]

Dont you think thats a town mindset?

Wouldnt scum try to be more 'reasoned' about their reads than just plopping down a gazillion scumreads?

[furtiveglance]

Dont you think thats a town mindset?

Wouldnt scum try to be more 'reasoned' about their reads than just plopping down a gazillion scumreads?

Wifom. If scum think blatant omgus x3 will get them TRed, why not do it? It's strategically sound that you're only alienating your voters as well.

The angle I'm coming at it from is how likely is a town!Andante to have these exact reads which are basically all 3 of her voters as top scumreads.

[furtiveglance]

I think I'm just going to go with "Andante is a VT and received that pm" for now because that's the simplest explanation, and anything else right now would be mere conjecture.

I don't think this reads as anti-associative.

I'm not interested in voting Afrayed right now.

@Ircher can I get your thoughts on Alianna/Furtive, both their day play and the votes on them?

Meuh's vote lacks justification and isn't a great look but could still be town.

Andante is town

but the vote doesn't make a lot of sense given her reads at the time.

This does read as anti-associative doesn't it? Do scum usually call partners town so straightforwardly?

Still not interested in pisskop lim here.

This was at 4/4 btw - Ircher knew PK was the only real alternative to his own elimination and basically chose to die.

I'm gonna switch it up again - I don't think I need to toss out reads and re-evaluate unless flips prove otherwise.

VOTE: pisskop

[furtiveglance]

More townposting will be beneficial here.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Drew: More explanation of reads would be great. Are you still sure this is town!Titus?

Hu Tao: Get your head out of the PTs and get in here!

[Doctor Drew]

More townposting will be beneficial here.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Drew: More explanation of reads would be great. Are you still sure this is town!Titus?

Hu Tao: Get your head out of the PTs and get in here!

Re: Titus

Short answer meh.....as I said in our pond, still don't think it is scumTitus but won't exactly fight to save her.

I have been focused on seeing the scum tells from her, which I haven't really seen......but it isn't a strong case either.

I would, however, like someone to give me a tldr on why she is scum here though.

[Broccoli Quest 2]

This is a semi-prodge.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Yesterday's posting which I skimmed over made me want to kill myself.

I do agree with your assessment that Ircher spewed Andante town. I also think Ircher spewed Titus and/or pisskop as scum. (ctrl+f "crimson" in his iso)

More thoughts later today.

[Gamma Emerald]

@broccoli

have you played on sites other than MS?

[Aureal]

I don't think I need to toss out reads and re-evaluate unless flips prove otherwise.

*also honks lazily, waits for more cheese*

[Hu Tao]

and I'm probably more "alien" to this game than any of us would like because work is absolutely taking all I have and I promise yall it's not getting better next week.

here's a recap of how my reads got to where they are:

I had a readslist I posted in thread, looked something like:

HighPrincessErinys
Meuh
Broccoli Quest 2 -
Afrayed Knott
---
furtiveglance Alianna
Theta Alpine
---
Gamma Emerald
Ircher
Aureal
---
Hu Tao
Doctor Drew
Titus

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Not perfect I know, but when I sit down and truly think about it, it's probably the best we're gonna have. 3 of those people I had 0 read on, they were null, they'd be Gamma, Ircher, Aureal. I had high confidence HPE, Meuh and Broccoli and Afrayed were town for whatever reason I said in thread. That left furtive,Theta,Hu Tao, Drew, and Titus.

So with the nulls, I figure only 1 scum in them, and very likely 2 in the other.

So 1 scum in Gamma, Ircher, Aureal
2 in Furtive, Theta,Hu Tao, Drew, Titus

now, off the top of my head I can't tell you what I even did day 1, but in all honesty I think it's better to go in the pool of 2... slightly better odds..

Then after the flip, and my attempt at some VCA/looking at ISOs, I reached the conclusion that Drew and Theta could never be partnered with Ircher, now we're down to Furtive/Hu Tao/Titus. Hu Tao's ISO screams scum to me, everything about it, and I genuinely don't SR Titus, I actually have reasons that make me TR her, and here we are at a furtive/Hu Tao scum team!

I'm having slight doubts on broccoli yes, but I don't think I'm truly going there till after flipping furtive or hu tao

No clue why hpe is there. It has not done much

[Hu Tao]

Like, Hu started voting Ircher as a joke, then magically believed in it?? like, just re read that ISO and hu's stance on Ircher, like, NEVER explained a SR there once, voted ircher as a joke in RVS, tried to flip the wagon to me at one point when ircher started losing momentum, then went back to ircher...

Post where it was a joke? And I unvoted for maybe 5 minutes while reading what I missed? This is a misrep and likely scum

[furtiveglance]

I think what makes the most sense is just to take Ircher/Titus at face value and TR Titus for it.

Even though Ircher's longer post 308 accusing Titus came when it was Ircher 6/Titus 2, they had voted each other before that and it seems like a really strange way for scum to play on D1.

I think more likely is Ircher was told to put some pressure on town!Titus to try and save his own skin.

Titus voters, surely it's more sensible to play assuming traditional associatives between scum for the moment?

That is to say, I think we should leave Titus for now and assume the usual regarding VCA.

[Hu Tao]

More townposting will be beneficial here.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Drew: More explanation of reads would be great. Are you still sure this is town!Titus?

Hu Tao: Get your head out of the PTs and get in here!

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Hu Tao
Forgot to RVS in my opener... I'm losing my touch

VOTE: Meuh

OMGUS

It's OMGUS bexause you are voting my

mason partner

!

Totally legit claim btw

Why are you claiming mason right out the gate?

Looking back on Ircher he thought Broccoli and I were masons together jumping at him for the claim early. Broccoli is back to lock town for me again

[furtiveglance]

More townposting will be beneficial here.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Drew: More explanation of reads would be great. Are you still sure this is town!Titus?

Hu Tao: Get your head out of the PTs and get in here!

Genuinely, I don't see much reason not to just dump all your thoughts in the main thread, especially now that we know about the hoods.