Open 106 - Impotence Mafia (Game Over!) before 714

Caboose · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:21 pm

StrangerCoug wrote:
Appassionata wrote:Also, how is the idea of a "mass-claim" scummy, it has it's logical parts.
It benefits the Mafia more than the town.

Seriously, that's all you got?
Vote stands.

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Vote Count:

ZazieR

(0)

mrfixij

(0)

chenhsi

(1) - EmpTyger

yorgi

(0)

EmpTyger

(1) - chenhsi

afatchic

(0)

BlondeSoWut

(2) - ZazieR, Appassionata

StrangerCoug

(3) - Caboose, yorgi, Natirasha

Appassionata

(1) - BlondeSoWut

Zakeri

(1) - mrfixij

Caboose

(0)

Natirasha

(3) - afatchic, Zakeri, StrangerCoug

Not voting

(0)

With 12 players alive, 7 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is January 3.

Prodding afatchic.

BlondeSoWut · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:09 am

Heyy. Finals week here. Soo crazy!!

Soo. What did I miss. Did we lynch anyone?

afatchic · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:25 am

Hey, got my prod. sorry its finals week here, so i have extremely busy, and dedicated the little time i do get on here to another game a lot farther along. But yesterday my Power Cord for my laptop died, so until i get that fixed i will have Limited access the next day or two. sorry. if my inactivty becomes a problem before i can get back on to catch up then the mod can replace me, however i would like to continue.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:19 am

BlondeSoWut wrote:Heyy. Finals week here. Soo crazy!!

Soo. What did I miss. Did we lynch anyone?

Today is the 11th and the game started on the 3rd, so that would mean someone would have been speedlynched. Didn't happen, but I'm pretty sure that either I'm the primary suspect or I'm mentally blowing the case on me out of proportion.

About 40 minutes away from a final myself, so wish me luck on that part.

Caboose · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:11 pm

Well, good luck on finals, everyone.

Nat wrote:Um...how? You realize there is only one scum faction, right? Vote: SC Honestly, your case is riddles with holes, and you seem to defend me while saying I'm scum while defending EmpTyger and saying he's scum.

This is a really valid point.

Questions:

@BSW

: Why is your vote on Appassionata?

@Appassionata

: Why is your vote on BSW?

@Zakeri and afatchic

: What are your current stances on Nat?

yorgi · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:59 am

StrangerCoug wrote:
Appassionata wrote:Also, how is the idea of a "mass-claim" scummy, it has it's logical parts.
It benefits the Mafia more than the town.

That does not = emp as scum.
I gave him an FOS for the suggestion. I disagree. Many disaggree. You really think scum is going to come in and say "hey everyone lets mass claim."

BlondeSoWut · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:51 am

Caboose, cus he followed the crowd with his vote and hes too quiet! And hes got no real reason for his vote. If I was in the mafia Id just vote for who everyone else is voting and stay quiet. Thats wut hes doing.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:54 am

BlondeSoWut wrote:Caboose, cus he followed the crowd with his vote and hes too quiet! And hes got no real reason for his vote. If I was in the mafia Id just vote for who everyone else is voting and stay quiet. Thats wut hes doing.

One, there's not a lot to talk about. Two, I'm debating whether or not this is WIFOM.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:55 am

EBWOP: I thought he was asking you about me instead of about Appassionasta, but the points still stand.

Appassionata · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:43 am

BlondeSoWut wrote:Caboose, cus he followed the crowd with his vote and hes too quiet! And hes got no real reason for his vote. If I was in the mafia Id just vote for who everyone else is voting and stay quiet. Thats wut hes doing.

The vote carried over from the random period. Anyways, you yourself have not contributed much either.
I don't think you are mafia though and I did thought I unvoted..

Unvote

SC - How would it be a WIFOM?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:48 am

Appassionata wrote:SC - How would it be a WIFOM?

BlondeSoWhat made an "I would do X as scum" statement, which is a classic component of WIFOM. I'm used to people trying to use WIFOM as a defense, but here it's an attack. WIFOM is still an effed up mind game.

mrfixij · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:22 am

I'm seeing more WIFOM on this page than I'd like to. Blonde's post was dumb WIFOM, and yorgi's before that was a smart WIFOM. Both ways though, we're still speculating on what scum would or wouldn't do.

I also think that the case on SC is relatively insubstantial so far. While it may be all we're getting on a D1, it seems like it grew rather quickly without much backing.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:25 am

So WIFOM can indeed be used as an attack, mrfixij?

mrfixij · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:40 am

StrangerCoug wrote:So WIFOM can indeed be used as an attack, mrfixij?

Please elaborate. WIFOM is essentially fluff that adds nothing to conversation except the illusion of thought. Or, in more realistic terms, the illusion of practical thought. WIFOM is neither pro-town nor anti-town, it's just shoveling.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:21 pm

mrfixij wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:So WIFOM can indeed be used as an attack, mrfixij?
Please elaborate. WIFOM is essentially fluff that adds nothing to conversation except the illusion of thought. Or, in more realistic terms, the illusion of practical thought. WIFOM is neither pro-town nor anti-town, it's just shoveling.

Would using "I would do X as scum" as justification for voting someone for doing X him- or herself qualify as attacking someone with WIFOM?

chenhsi · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:28 pm

Sorry for inactivity, finals week is driving me crazy. I need to leave soon, so...

And sorry for not posting after I promised earler.

mrfixij · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:06 pm

StrangerCoug wrote:
mrfixij wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:So WIFOM can indeed be used as an attack, mrfixij?
Please elaborate. WIFOM is essentially fluff that adds nothing to conversation except the illusion of thought. Or, in more realistic terms, the illusion of practical thought. WIFOM is neither pro-town nor anti-town, it's just shoveling.
Would using "I would do X as scum" as justification for voting someone for doing X him- or herself qualify as attacking someone with WIFOM?

No, that just qualifies as being stupid. WIFOM is never a tell one way or the other because it's a mind game. If you would do something as scum and vote for someone because of that, it's a nulltell and you're voting with no backing to it. A vote without good reason is scummy, but not necessarily a full-out balls to the wall confirmation of scum.

Of course though, it's incredibly obvious that blonde is role playing. As it is, it annoys me, but I think intentionally stupid play isn't a scumtell so to speak. Granted, if blonde is going to continue this train of play, it will be impossible to get a scum or towntell on her using that logic.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:37 pm

"Role playing"?

Crazy · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:40 pm

Prodding Zakeri.

Looking for a replacement for ZazieR.

Appassionata · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:32 pm

By Roleplaying did you mean that BlondesoWut is "acting" his "stupid" play?

BlondeSoWut · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:43 pm

Heyy! I'm smarder than you guys thinkk!

I swear I think Apass is in the mafia! Hes doing exactly wut I would if I was in the mafia.

And if hes in the mafia so is Yorgi. He doesnt talk about Yorgi at all. He wants town peoples lynched. Hes not gunna waste his time on the other mafia peoples.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:47 pm

BlondeSoWut wrote:Heyy! I'm smarder than you guys thinkk!

I swear I think Apass is in the mafia! Hes doing exactly wut I would if I was in the mafia.

And if hes in the mafia so is Yorgi. He doesnt talk about Yorgi at all. He wants town peoples lynched. Hes not gunna waste his time on the other mafia peoples.

...Do you even know what the hell you are talking about? I'll leave whether it's WIFOM to accuse someone of something you say you'd do as Mafia up for debate, but using your weak reasoning for suspecting Appassionata to put yorgi in a scummy light? Something is wrong with this picture.

Unvote: EmpTyger
Vote: BlondeSoWut

Caboose · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:17 pm

BSW wrote:Heyy! I'm smarder than you guys thinkk!

BSW, are you using the "hunt and peck" system of typing or are you touch typing?

Something

is

wrong with BSW's arguement.
More on that tomorrow.

EmpTyger · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:23 pm

Sorry, got sick, and incredibly sneezy/sniffly. I’ll respond about SC when I’m healthier and not on cold medicine- right now I’d rather just vote him than rebut him-

I agree that BSW’s affectation is annoying, but her actual content is far from unhelpful, and certainly compared to others, like. say. chenhsi.

mrfixij:

mrfixij [138] wrote:<snip>
Please elaborate. WIFOM is essentially fluff that adds nothing to conversation except the illusion of thought. Or, in more realistic terms, the illusion of practical thought. WIFOM is neither pro-town nor anti-town, it's just shoveling.

How is this not simply antitown?

mrfixij · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:58 pm

The act of WIFOM itself is a nulltell, the latent consequences of the act (appearing to be posting content should it go unchecked, etc) are antitown. The act of WIFOM itself is not an antitown move, but often WIFOM is played in a way that doesn't benefit town. The trick is to find which cases of WIFOM are without implication and which are being used to influence town.