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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:25 pm

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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 471, KeyLaga wrote: This is clearly a Informed themed game and how did she know this when nobody had claimed prior to her? Her confederates received the Informed roles too.
I would adjure you not to dismiss me out of hand, work through the actual logic, confront me with it and I will answer every step.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 475, Alianna wrote: Bloop
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:26 pm

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In post 476, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 471, KeyLaga wrote: This is clearly a Informed themed game and how did she know this when nobody had claimed prior to her? Her confederates received the Informed roles too.
I would adjure you not to dismiss me out of hand, work through the actual logic, confront me with it and I will answer every step.
Is it? Was it described as such in the sign ups?
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:26 pm

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Even if she was joking how do you pull THAT joke when there is no such information -- besides there is scum purpose in the "claim" to which there was no hint of any joke.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:27 pm

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In post 479, KeyLaga wrote: Even if she was joking how do you pull THAT joke when there is no such information -- besides there is scum purpose in the "claim" to which there was no hint of any joke.
Did you even read the quoted post that she directly responded to?
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:28 pm

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Look this is blowing up right now but I wished to discuss this with Kitty (the counter claim) but JUST BY LOGIC ALONE the scum received 1-3 Informed roles, which also informed them and which is why they dared to fakeclaim like that.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 473, Doctor Drew wrote: I actually hate being the IC tbh.
Yeah...I'm not quite sure what to do with it. My plan is to maybe start casting wild accusations at people and maybe bait scum into something. But maybe KL is already doing that.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 481, KeyLaga wrote: Look this is blowing up right now but I wished to discuss this with Kitty (the counter claim) but JUST BY LOGIC ALONE the scum received 1-3 Informed roles, which also informed them and which is why they dared to fakeclaim like that.
Show me the logic
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:29 pm

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Let's quote it. Besides that it is a red herring anyway -- how does she come up with Informed -- its a scum-TMI joke. But I will quote it.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:30 pm

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It must be so, you as town had NO way of knowing there were any Informed roles.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:31 pm

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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:31 pm

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You deliberately fakeclaimed a demonstrably false Informed that would be counter-claimed.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:31 pm

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In post 485, KeyLaga wrote: It must be so, you as town had NO way of knowing there were any Informed roles.
How do you know I'm not informed about something else?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 487, KeyLaga wrote: You deliberately fakeclaimed a demonstrably false Informed that would be counter-claimed.
There is no logic pointing to it definitely being counter claimed
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 482, Celebloki wrote:
In post 473, Doctor Drew wrote: I actually hate being the IC tbh.
Yeah...I'm not quite sure what to do with it. My plan is to maybe start casting wild accusations at people and maybe bait scum into something. But maybe KL is already doing that.
I would say that you are Informed that this is actually a bastard game and you being IC is a mod lie.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 490, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 482, Celebloki wrote:
In post 473, Doctor Drew wrote: I actually hate being the IC tbh.
Yeah...I'm not quite sure what to do with it. My plan is to maybe start casting wild accusations at people and maybe bait scum into something. But maybe KL is already doing that.
I would say that you are Informed that this is actually a bastard game and you being IC is a mod lie.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:37 pm

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In post 20, Elements wrote:
In post 13, Bingle wrote:
In post 11, Random Nurse wrote: I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat? <<<< THIS IS KEY INFORMATION, IT DETERMINES THE # OF INFORMED ROLES THE SCUM RECEIVED.

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Wdym? IC is actually a very weak role in the wider spectrum of things. Basically the only thing we can deduce there is that there’s some method of kill prevention but that it’s not foolproof.

Well… there’s a lot of other minor considerations, but that’s the one that’s most likely to be relevant.
I'm informed and my info is there's no method of kill prevention, it's just setup wifom for scum
I know that post because I quoted it already in my first case against Bingle. He was serious. She is acting under plausible deniability.

I'm telling you right now, the scum are hunting town power roles.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:39 pm

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In post 489, Elements wrote:
In post 487, KeyLaga wrote: You deliberately fakeclaimed a demonstrably false Informed that would be counter-claimed.
There is no logic pointing to it definitely being counter claimed
You probably received 2-3 Informed roles and were able to put 2 & 2 together -- besides, what game has an IC with no protection roles?? Are you serious??
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:39 pm

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Three people have claimed informed:
The actual claim
In post 212, KittyTacky wrote: I am informed.

My informed contradicts how you say there is no protective.
The joke claim
In post 20, Elements wrote: I'm informed and my info is there's no method of kill prevention, it's just setup wifom for scum
The second joke claim clearly made because of my joke claim and because Flavor knew it was a joke claim
In post 43, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am Informed of something that a Mass claim could catch a scum.
The only post about this being a setup based around informed players
In post 46, Elements wrote:
In post 44, Flavor Leaf wrote: But like it doesn’t work if i claim it
So we're both informed about things we shouldn't claim.
Negative utility information?
Seems like a fun setup
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:40 pm

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Or more properly, no protection roles for the town, is like I don't even, notwithstanding the IC.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:41 pm

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In post 493, KeyLaga wrote:besides, what game has an IC with no protection roles?? Are you serious??
THIS IS LITERALLY WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID IN
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:41 pm

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In post 495, KeyLaga wrote: Or more properly, no protection roles for the town, is like I don't even, notwithstanding the IC.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:43 pm

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Again we are in circles, you had no way, as town, of knowing this was an Informed game and because you were power role heavy (just like Nurse said), you received 2-3 informed roles and realized their connection to power roles, hence your fakeclaim, with plausible deniability intended.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:44 pm

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There is no getting out of it, THERE WAS A COUNTER-CLAIM, YOU FISHED A TOWN POWER ROLE.

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