Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[KeyLaga]

I hear you Gamma, my intention was to have that conversation with Kitty -- I can read that Flavor post two ways, where one of them is serious but I didn't understand his post when I first read it. THe question mark means I wanted to query him or at least thought about it:

informed that massclaim can catch scum but setup is balanced, doesn't work if he claims informed(?)

[Gamma Emerald]

This is a Large with old rules -- no announcement necessary.

This ain’t no damn large

[KeyLaga]

I guess we won't know until the post game thred.

[KeyLaga]

Ya wow sorry I was studying so many Large's, I guess I mean its NORMAL old rules, sorry.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay

[KeyLaga]

I wish Kitty had come in but he didn't and I guess I just couldn't keep quiet once the good Doctor started tearing into me (I am sure quite justifiably).

[Gamma Emerald]

I know why you three came out -- I know.

Are you claiming your such a threat to the scumteam that they all decided to go after you?

[KeyLaga]

I felt I was risking my entire case getting buried -- I just couldn't let her get away with it.

[KeyLaga]

Yes I declared I would name them once I talked with Kitty. I also breadcrumbed the team and their associations with the Elements wagon.

[KeyLaga]

Kitty was scheduled to return tonight (by his previous posting).

[KeyLaga]

It is even possible that I can name all 3 scum (I am assuming there are 3) after we talk.

[KeyLaga]

have you played with Khaos before?

I have played Werewolf before but certainly not with him. I mean it should be clear why he is lhf, look at his first post after RVS. I mean I have some business to discuss with Kitty and she will be here in about an hour. All I am asking is not to force his claim until after that?

[KeyLaga]

*oops he sorry.

[KeyLaga]

Bingle if you are creating a wagon, why not team up with Eira, I notice he is also wanting to start one?

[KeyLaga]

Its within 5 posts they both launched wagon attempts.

[KeyLaga]

All I got. I better rest up for work tomorrow.

[Eiralox]

what wagon attempt lol
if u think me saying im okay ending u is a wagon attempt
or me talking 2 celebloki is
the u havent seen my wagon attempts

Laga you're pushing me on the shallowest sh*t when i meant u digging a hole 4 yoself i meant that as a warning
if u town, rethink your strat a bit
or dont
whatever

[KeyLaga]

I wish I could have just made a normal post but because it involves PR's I like couldn't.

Here is my logic dump:

A) Its not practical to believe that Elements' claim was a coincidence.

B) THEREFORE WE KNOW: The scum have received 1-3 Informed roles, which is why Elements DELIBERATELY fakeclaimed a KNOWINGLY FALSE Informed role, to draw out the genuine counter-claim.

1. The scum know what the counter-claim means, which is why Elements risked fakeclaiming.
2. We know that Elements is scum and exactly why they risked fakeclaiming but what is the most practical way to reveal this to the town?
3. I think I saw the two other scum in the space of 5 posts attempt to derail the Elements wagon.

[KeyLaga]

The missing piece is the PR's in that dump.

[KeyLaga]

Elements had a sizeable enough wagon on her. You two peeled out at virtually the same time span (5 posts apart) and created two separate wagons, stealing Gamma.

[KittyTacky]

Ele said it was a joke. Which is a bizarre coincidence to make in a game that revolves around informeds.

and what u thinking bout Bingle bringing the subject up? Also, do u trust Flavor's informed claim?

Bingle seems fine, nothing pinged bad to me about it. Flavor's informed claim seems trustworthy in a vacuum but then again it's Flavor so hell if I know.

[KittyTacky]

@Kitty: For my game-long sanity, could please expound on your statement that you only wished to "inform the IC's play":

Oh and Mafia knows that there is a protective so I didn't ruin any possible play, I only helped inform (no pun intended) the IC's play.

Inform as in, Cele shouldn't play like he will die this night.

[KittyTacky]

Anyone familiar with LAL?

Its a classic Mafia theory which means: Lim All Liars

It is a theory because liars are more probable to be scum than not & because when enforced as a site meta, it discourages such behavior. It is also well known in the various Mafia guides that lying about one's role as town is discouraged because it causes doubt and confusion in the town and is very likely to backfire.

So the question is: Should we run Elements up here under LAL?

VOTE: Unvote

LAL is for when there are no other leads. I think the "joke" is too big of a coincidence to not be fishy which is why I kinda sus Ele but it's not that a joke claim was made. People meme claim in RVS all the time.

[KittyTacky]

KL seems... competent now. Where did you play before?

[Eiralox]

Elements had a sizeable enough wagon on her. You two peeled out at virtually the same time span (5 posts apart) and created two separate wagons, stealing Gamma.

u know what wagon means?