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[BlackStar]

BlackStar, I don’t think you’re wrong that Black is very limhungry, but she has been pretty keen to also defend townreads and such. Additionally, I don’t think pushing for an elimination is super scummy if she makes good arguments for the targets—I mean, we’re supposed to want the people we think are scummy to be eliminated, right?

I mean, it’s not like she denied wanting to eliminate people in her response to you in 924

(though I will say she didn’t technically confirm it either), and she was like this in our last game too—lots of “sharpness,” as Shea put it.

That post that you quoted had her literally saying “that’s not true”.

[AnimatedWiz]

No, she says if what you’re implying by her wanting to create a wagon is that she wants the day to be short,

that’s

not true—she’s debating the reasoning for her pushes, not that she has them.

[BlackStar]

No, she says if what you’re implying by her wanting to create a wagon is that she wants the day to be short,

that’s

not true—she’s debating the reasoning for her pushes, not that she has them.

That is what I was implying and she just said a few posts ago that she doesn’t really care who we lynch. OWER making a case that Black herself doesn’t even seem that excited about doesn’t seem like a good reason to hop on a wagon. Especially since she claims to scum read Black. Why would you join a wagon with one of your top scum reads just like that?

And maybe it’s just me, but I only ever vote for the person I’m scum reading the most at the moment. Flipping around just based on what lim seems more likely to go through seems like a bad idea.

[BlackStar]

No, she says if what you’re implying by her wanting to create a wagon is that she wants the day to be short,

that’s

not true—she’s debating the reasoning for her pushes, not that she has them.

That is what I was implying and she just said a few posts ago that she doesn’t really care who we lynch. OWER making a case that Black herself doesn’t even seem that excited about doesn’t seem like a good reason to hop on a wagon. Especially since she claims to scum read OWER. Why would you join a wagon with one of your top scum reads just like that?

And maybe it’s just me, but I only ever vote for the person I’m scum reading the most at the moment. Flipping around just based on what lim seems more likely to go through seems like a bad idea.

EBWOP

[AnimatedWiz]

No, she says if what you’re implying by her wanting to create a wagon is that she wants the day to be short,

that’s

not true—she’s debating the reasoning for her pushes, not that she has them.

That is what I was implying and she just said a few posts ago that she doesn’t really care who we eliminate. OWER making a case that Black herself doesn’t even seem that excited about doesn’t seem like a good reason to hop on a wagon. Especially since she claims to scum read OWER. Why would you join a wagon with one of your top scum reads just like that?

And maybe it’s just me, but I only ever vote for the person I’m scum reading the most at the moment. Flipping around just based on what lim seems more likely to go through seems like a bad idea.

I mean, in context (1113 for reference), I feel like it’s clear that she is saying that out of her two top scumreads, she’s happy to get rid of either. I don’t feel like being a bit flexible about your vote is that bad an idea—don’t want to stay parked on your pie-in-the-sky top scumread if your 2nd top scumread has a wagon forming on them. After all, either one results in a top 2 scumread getting eliminated—this might just be a difference in our game strategy, though.

I… hm… I admit, I feel like if a top scumread joined my push, it would make me pause (like with I did with OWER), but I suppose you could always just view it as opportunistic bussing? Might as well use the scumteam’s vote to get rid of the scumteam, y’know?

Definitely will have to ponder that one, though—don’t want to go in with conf bias, but I don’t want to WIFOM myself to dizziness about it either.

P.S. Make sure to use the right word for eliminating—bad history with the other one.

[BlackStar]

Sorry, I didn’t notice that I reverted to the older term.

[Roden]

VOTE: Roden

I don't care and I lost interest, just kill Black tomorrow

[AnimatedWiz]

That’s E-3.

Four votes for Roden so far: Me, OWER, Black, and Roden (in order).

[usesPython]

Can we get a vote count last one is like 10 pages old

[usesPython]

VOTE: Roden

I don't care and I lost interest, just kill Black tomorrow

Why is Black scum

[usesPython]

VOTE: Roden

I don't care and I lost interest, just kill Black tomorrow

Why is Black scum

And like can we get your other reads?

[Black]

Come on guys

There is a huge difference in wanting a wagon and wanting to fade someone. I can't tell if you are deliberately reaching here or if you just don't understand why a townie would want a wagon formed

[Black]

BlackStar, I don’t think you’re wrong that Black is very limhungry, but she has been pretty keen to also defend townreads and such. Additionally, I don’t think pushing for an elimination is super scummy if she makes good arguments for the targets—I mean, we’re supposed to want the people we think are scummy to be eliminated, right?

I mean, it’s not like she denied wanting to eliminate people in her response to you in 924 (though I will say she didn’t technically confirm it either), and she was like this in our last game too—lots of “sharpness,” as Shea put it.

Again, I'm not pushing for an elimination here. Wagons are useful without getting all the way there

[Black]

No, she says if what you’re implying by her wanting to create a wagon is that she wants the day to be short,

that’s

not true—she’s debating the reasoning for her pushes, not that she has them.

That is what I was implying and she just said a few posts ago that she doesn’t really care who we lynch. OWER making a case that Black herself doesn’t even seem that excited about doesn’t seem like a good reason to hop on a wagon. Especially since she claims to scum read Black. Why would you join a wagon with one of your top scum reads just like that?

And maybe it’s just me, but I only ever vote for the person I’m scum reading the most at the moment. Flipping around just based on what lim seems more likely to go through seems like a bad idea.

Oh so you really don't get it then

Btw we don't use the L-word

[Black]

VOTE: Roden

I don't care and I lost interest, just kill Black tomorrow

Now

I'm ready to fade this, but I still think we wait until we get closer to the deadline

[Enchant]

TvT

[Naerys]

VC 1.2

Spooky Scary Skeletons

TheHoldSteady [3] :

OutWorldER

, Wartortle, Naerys

AnimatedWizard [2] :

usesPython, DragonEater70

OutWorldER [1] :

TheHoldSteady

Wartortle [1] :

AnimatedWizard

usesPython [1] :

heipizhu4

DragonEater70 [1] :

Afrayed Knott

Not Voting: [4]

Hu Tao, blackbear, BlackStar, SmileyDude1

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-05 20:11:20).

Mod Notes:

TheHoldSteady is V/LA

VC 1.3

Bad Moon Rising

Hu Tao [3] :

usesPython, AnimatedWizard, DragonEater70

usesPython [2] :

heipizhu4, Wartortle

TheHoldSteady [2] :

Naerys, Enchant

AnimatedWizard [2] :

OutWorldER

, Hu Tao

DragonEater70 [1] :

Afrayed Knott

SmileyDude1 [1] :

BlackStar

Enchant [1] :

TheHoldSteady

Naerys [1] :

SmileyDude1

Not Voting: [0]

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-05 20:11:20).

Mod Notes:

Enchant replaces blackbear.

VC 1.5

Thriller

AnimatedWizard [3] :

Hu Tao, BlackStar, Roden

Naerys [3] :

SmileyDude1, Wartortle, usesPython

TheHoldSteady [2] :

Naerys,

OutWorldER

Roden [1] :

Animated Wizard

usesPython [1] :

Black

Black [1] :

Enchant

Wartortle [1] :

Thestatusquo

Not Voting: [1]

TheHoldSteady

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-05 20:11:20).

Mod Notes:

Roden replaces DragonEater70, Thestatusquo replaces Afrayed Knott, and Black replaces heipizhu4!

VC 1.7

The Great Pumpkin Waltz

Wartortle [4] :

Thestatusquo, Black,

OutWorldER

, usesPython

Naerys [3] :

SmileyDude1, Wartortle, Roden

Roden [2] :

Animated Wizard,

TheHoldSteady

AnimatedWizard [1] :

Hu Tao

Black [1] :

Enchant

Hu Tao [1] :

Naerys

Not Voting [0] :

BlackStar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-05 20:11:20).

Mod Notes:

[Naerys]

OutWorldER comes out from this much worse than THS tbh

[Naerys]

Okay i will need to do some rereading. I would like to point out that i like OutWorldER less and less.

[usesPython]

OutWorldER comes out from this much worse than THS tbh

I don't get how you can get a read from anything other than the last votecount and I don't see why scum can't be off wagon there

[usesPython]

OutWorldER comes out from this much worse than THS tbh

I don't get how you can get a read from anything other than the last votecount and I don't see why scum can't be off wagon there

Like 1.2 they're crossvoting, 1.3 OWER voting wiz for reasons I don't remember, 1.5 OWER voting THS

with you

, and 1.7 is the flip

[usesPython]

like legit don't get your wagonomics here

[Enchant]

5 days until deadline uuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

Just a bit until we stop this trashtalk?

[Naerys]

OutWorldER comes out from this much worse than THS tbh

I don't get how you can get a read from anything other than the last votecount and I don't see why scum can't be off wagon there

All 3 scum outside of the wagon? Possible, but i dont believe that

[Black]

5 days until deadline uuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

Just a bit until we stop this trashtalk?

I don't think python is out of line at all here