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1.17

Votecount 1.17

Eiralox (4): OutWorldER, Naerys, KeyLaga, Doctor Drew
Naerys (3): Bingle, Eiralox, Elements
Chell (1): Organized Khaos
Elements (1): KittyTacky
Organized Khaos (1): Gamma Emerald

Celebloki

(1): Chell

Not Voting (2):

Celebloki

, Random Nurse

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

[Eiralox]

hi outWorldER

vote eiralox

u have to bold or use tags btw

[Eiralox]

UNVOTE:

i'll give it some time that's how i wanted to play this day anyway

[Eiralox]

VOTE: Naerys

Town

Celebloki

High Prob

Bingle

Good Prob But Can Be Wrong

Chell
Kitty

Want To Be Town But No Certainty

Gamma Emerald
Random Nurse

Might Be Town By Tone

Doctoro Drewa

To Sort Today

OutWorldER
Elements
Naerys
KeyLaga
Organized Khaos

Not voting today: Elements

[Eiralox]

VOTE: KeyLaga

[Elements]

VOTE: keylaga

[Eiralox]

eh VOTE: Naerys

[Elements]

VOTE: Naerys

[Eiralox]

UNVOTE: Naerys


ugh gimme 24 hours i need a break lol

[Elements]

VOTE: RN

[Naerys]

any thoughts on elements and KeyLaga interactions?

Element was trolling at the beginning which made Laga to comment on this. Strange is, that Laga then went for voting you.

@Bingle: Wow thanks! This is excellent info.

I think I will move here: VOTE: Eira

Actually nvm!

VOTE: Unvote

I am not of a mind to vote Elements and find no place to put my vote atm.

[Naerys]

Also this is kinda funny:

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

I thought it sounded like scum speaking in the "we" as opposed to the town "we" (yes, tenuous at best). But then he revealed he is a game designer and I realized there was no way he could scum-slip there.

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

There is exactly 1 minute between those posts. Are they reading their minds or what?

[KeyLaga]

Caught scum-lurking is the most prominent feature of my thoughts on Eira; faking a catch-up and then not even trying to answer the question posed = scum coasting.

No caught scum lurking is the foolish ploy you tried to pull on me when the game was barely 48 hours and i've barely put on my rvs crocs
and then u backed down like a kid starting a fire in a rocket factory
and now you're back on with your manufac reasons cos u feel enough town has piled on for u to have obscurity
so you're dusting off the old swords which i could so easily have broken
the flawed blade of 'oh hey this perspon isnt spamming the fuck out of this game all the time from the start. LETS VOTE EM!!!!!'

So

If i were scum coasting here i'd have joined elements on u long long ago

I'm sorry. I have to respond to this because the record needs to be validated. I am still not caught up from last night but this post I will respond to immediately.

No caught scum lurking is the foolish ploy you tried to pull on me when the game was barely 48 hours and i've barely put on my rvs crocs

ORLY? You actually want RVS to last 48 hours?? And you are using that as an excuse? Engaged town players use RVS to form reads and catch scum, what were you doing? Scum want to prolong RVS because it is a natural state of confusion for town and they are most easily able to manipulate it, I'm just sayin'.

and then u backed down like a kid starting a fire in a rocket factory

This is patently false. Anyone can review my early ISO and see my push on you & exactly how you behaved, I actually gave you town points for your first RVS entry post for the reasons explained specifically yesterday and yet instead of recognizing it, you are using it as a weapon against me? Tell us all then right now, Why Did You Townblock Those Players? QED

and now you're back on with your manufac reasons cos u feel enough town has piled on for u to have obscurity

Just an explanation here. I was ISO'ing Kitty and had already ISO'ed you and got serious scum vibes which is why I asked for meta yesterday. As I returned to the thread from one of the Kitty ISO dives, I noticed a large amount of posting and found that Chell had mind-melded with me on my scum vibes of yourself. THATS how I entered your wagon and not how you have described it.

I don't need to respond to the rest but it should be clear that we don't have a town-engaged Eira in this game and not just from his meta but from actual play; he couldn't remember what happened 3 PAGES AGO, after completing a catchup? Does that sound like someone who is trying to catch scum? When someone posts a town block in thread, don't you look at it and try to discern the alignment of the poster based on your own views? Aren't you naturally (as town) interested in the concept of a town block? But Eira here couldn't even recall it 3 pages ago AFTER A SUPPOSED CATCHUP. This is because as scum, he didn't catch up to anything except his private PT with his bretheren.

[Elements]

Also this is kinda funny:

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

I thought it sounded like scum speaking in the "we" as opposed to the town "we" (yes, tenuous at best). But then he revealed he is a game designer and I realized there was no way he could scum-slip there.

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

@Gamma: What do you think about Bingle at this point?

There is exactly 1 minute between those posts. Are they reading their minds or what?

we co-ordinated it in the scum pt

[KeyLaga]

Creepy Celeb Encounter: You're going to die but maybe you'll live if you don't try too hard

this is a direct lie btw and a good example of KeyLaga's lazy push strat on Eira

I know u wanna play but the more dangerous u become the more utility your role has.
Sure scum takes our inno but they miss prs. And if we got a watcher or adjacent role...

Eira is saying exactly the opposite: If Celebloki tries hard today/gets a good elim and dies tonight that's +town.
The other two scenarios being:
1. Celebloki doesn't try hard but still dies n1, less use
2.Celebloki doesn't try hard and scum keep him alive till near the end. worst case scenario.

I'm cautioning everyone to think very carefully here
Don't get lost in the sauce because this game is moving 2 fast.

I am inclined to be supporting this post as I am catching up here. I will be re-evaluating once I have caught up.

[Naerys]

I am starting to believe OutWorldER-Laga-Elements contains atleast 1 scum.
Got bit of sidetracked while answering to Eira.
Element/Laga feels a bit like theatre early, later the argument feels genuine from Laga
Laga has some posts that feel towny and then some posts that do not sit really well with me.

Why is not outing that info smart?

I think you know already. I am willing to say I know you know, in fact.

It's something scum know, why would you not tell town?

WOW! The scum know this?? I THINK MOST CERTAINLY NOT! Why do I think this? Because here you are trying to justify your actions.

Then town aren't on the back foot and it tells the tp that crumbing in dangerous as scum could be looking out for it

I am certainly willing to have an actual conversation with you but I can't quite figure out what you mean by this last quote if you could please re-phrase it somehow?

Element feels fake, Laga geniune

[Naerys]

Creepy Celeb Encounter: You're going to die but maybe you'll live if you don't try too hard

this is a direct lie btw and a good example of KeyLaga's lazy push strat on Eira

I know u wanna play but the more dangerous u become the more utility your role has.
Sure scum takes our inno but they miss prs. And if we got a watcher or adjacent role...

Eira is saying exactly the opposite: If Celebloki tries hard today/gets a good elim and dies tonight that's +town.
The other two scenarios being:
1. Celebloki doesn't try hard but still dies n1, less use
2.Celebloki doesn't try hard and scum keep him alive till near the end. worst case scenario.

I'm cautioning everyone to think very carefully here
Don't get lost in the sauce because this game is moving 2 fast.

I am inclined to be supporting this post as I am catching up here. I will be re-evaluating once I have caught up.

I like that Eira post.

[Naerys]

I am starting to believe OutWorldER-Laga-Elements contains atleast 1 scum.

Element feels like the most likely

[Eiralox]

I don't need to respond to the rest but it should be clear that we don't have a town-engaged Eira in this game and not just from his meta but from actual play; he couldn't remember what happened 3 PAGES AGO, after completing a catchup? Does that sound like someone who is trying to catch scum? When someone posts a town block in thread, don't you look at it and try to discern the alignment of the poster based on your own views? Aren't you naturally (as town) interested in the concept of a town block? But Eira here couldn't even recall it 3 pages ago AFTER A SUPPOSED CATCHUP. This is because as scum, he didn't catch up to anything except his private PT with his bretheren.

yeah i'm probably ignoring you for the rest of the game day
see everyone in a day or more i need to detox

[Elements]

Element feels fake, Laga geniune

can you quote what I've said that feels fake?

[Naerys]

Wait so it wasn't a joke Ele? Are you serious about your informed?

I'll tell you if you VOTE: bingle

[Naerys]

Not to mention Elements needs to clarify THEIR Informed and based on that I have to re-think...

No I don't

[Elements]

if being obstereperous is fake then sure

[Naerys]

This is clearly a Informed themed game and how did she know this when nobody had claimed prior to her? Her confederates received the Informed roles too.
I would adjure you not to dismiss me out of hand, work through the actual logic, confront me with it and I will answer every step.

Is it? Was it described as such in the sign ups?

90% of what Key is saying is speculative but said in a way claiming it to be real

[Naerys]

if being obstereperous is fake then sure

Depends on the point of view.