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[usesPython]

THS rn has that slimy "Oh shit my partner did something dumb" playing both sides vibe going on where he "has" to react to the doctor claim but also doesn't really wanna have that be the focus of the thread while trying to pull back to the OWER lim

[TheHoldSteady]

Oh if I was her partner I wouldn't make it that apparent to your eyes, believe me. I just want an answer to the motivation behind that claim, and then well, maybe I'll still vote.

[TheHoldSteady]

THS rn has that slimy "Oh shit my partner did something dumb" playing both sides vibe going on where he "has" to react to the doctor claim but also doesn't really wanna have that be the focus of the thread while trying to pull back to the OWER lim

I'm making the doctor claim the focus of the thread because I'm not resting until Hu Tao answers

[TheHoldSteady]

Oh if I was her partner I wouldn't make it that apparent to your eyes, believe me. I just want an answer to the motivation behind that claim, and then well, maybe I'll still vote.

What I mean by this is I'm better at scum than town and as scum I'd try to be cognisant to not myself away as a partner to the scum on a chopping block. As town idc. I'm not partnered with Hu Tao and the thought never crossed my mind. I just want to explore all angles of this before I fully commit.

[TheHoldSteady]

I don't want my presence in games to be a toxic experience for people. I'm going to try to do better

[Dannflor]

VC 2.4

Moonlight Sonata

Hu Tao [4]:

AnimatedWiz, usesPython, Roden, Black

OutWorldER [2]:

Enchant, Hu Tao

Black [2]:

Thestatusquo, TheHoldSteady

Roden [1]:

OutWorldER

SmileyDude1 [1]:

BlackStar

Not Voting [2]:

SmileyDude1, Naerys

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-11-14 12:58:34).

Mod Notes:

[Black]

Because Annie is locktown and I thought he would be the NK

He was the leading vote for a large part of d1. Even if you tr him, not everyone did

Ok? You asked me my reason and I gave it to you. I don't really care if you believe it or not

[Black]

VOTE: OWER

I don't know why scum!Hu would claim Doc here and then back off right away instead of just faking a target. Doesn't really make sense to me the more I think about it

[usesPython]

VOTE: OWER

I don't know why scum!Hu would claim Doc here and then back off right away instead of just faking a target. Doesn't really make sense to me the more I think about it

She backed off cause we were very clearly softing that we had something to do the lack of nightkill and therefore didn't need to keep the claim anymore since it already forced a cc

[Black]

I don't want my presence in games to be a toxic experience for people. I'm going to try to do better

I like that you acknowledge this and apologized for it. We all slip up and make mistakes sometimes. It's good that you are mindful of it and want to change

[usesPython]

Like it was very obviously shaping up to be a 1v1 with us, do you actually think Hu Tao wins that?

[Black]

VOTE: OWER

I don't know why scum!Hu would claim Doc here and then back off right away instead of just faking a target. Doesn't really make sense to me the more I think about it

She backed off cause we were very clearly softing that we had something to do the lack of nightkill and therefore didn't need to keep the claim anymore since it already forced a cc

I still don't think scum goes "lol I'm not a Doc" even after seeing your claim. Maybe I'm wrong

I'm trusting my gut and keeping my vote on OWER

[usesPython]

VOTE: OWER

I don't know why scum!Hu would claim Doc here and then back off right away instead of just faking a target. Doesn't really make sense to me the more I think about it

She backed off cause we were very clearly softing that we had something to do the lack of nightkill and therefore didn't need to keep the claim anymore since it already forced a cc

I still don't think scum goes "lol I'm not a Doc" even after seeing your claim. Maybe I'm wrong

Literally what is the alternative, get into a losing 1v1?

[usesPython]

Like can we maybe

not

let people get away with openwolfing like this

[usesPython]

VOTE: OWER

I don't know why scum!Hu would claim Doc here and then back off right away instead of just faking a target. Doesn't really make sense to me the more I think about it

She backed off cause we were very clearly softing that we had something to do the lack of nightkill and therefore didn't need to keep the claim anymore since it already forced a cc

I still don't think scum goes "lol I'm not a Doc" even after seeing your claim. Maybe I'm wrong

Literally what is the alternative, get into a losing 1v1?

Also she backed off

before

we claimed 1-Shot BP, for all she knew we were about to straight up claim Doctor

[Black]

Why would it be a 1v1? I don't see a soft from you at all. Even with mech speculation there would be no way to prove Hu was lying. It would make more sense for Hu to just say she targeted someone and try to survive

[Black]

Where is the "very clear soft"

[usesPython]

I'm a doctor

If you're claiming you might as well fullclaim

I'm a doctor what else is there to claim?

Target cause you're claim isn't a mech clear even with the lack of nightkill

We're literally saying that a doctor claim after a no kill isn't a mech clear and asking for a fullclaim, how is that not an obvious soft

[usesPython]

Like if we didn't have something to do with it we'd be reacting with "ok then" instead of pushing that hard

[Black]

To me it just seems like you're considering other roles in the game that could have prevented the kill. It's not clear to me and probably not to anyone else that isn't great at noticing that type of thing

[usesPython]

To me it just seems like you're considering other roles in the game that could have prevented the kill. It's not clear to me and probably not to anyone else that isn't great at noticing that type of thing

Do you actually think a VT here would be pushing a Doctor claim this hard after a no kill happened?

[Black]

Like scum!Hu could have just picked a random townie to say that they protected and it would give them a much higher chance of survival than saying "lol jk I lied"

[BlackStar]

I'm a doctor

If you're claiming you might as well fullclaim

I'm a doctor what else is there to claim?

Target cause you're claim isn't a mech clear even with the lack of nightkill

We're literally saying that a doctor claim after a no kill isn't a mech clear and asking for a fullclaim, how is that not an obvious soft

I read that as you thinking Hu Tao was lying but I didn’t think you were trying to soft something. That makes sense now though

[Black]

I read that as you thinking Hu Tao was lying but I didn’t think you were trying to soft something. That makes sense now though

Same

[usesPython]

Like scum!Hu could have just picked a random townie to say that they protected and it would give them a much higher chance of survival than saying "lol jk I lied"

Again, if she picks a random townie then that's almost a guaranteed 1v1 right there and I don't think she wins that against us. Backing off like this at least gives her a chance of making it through the day