Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[Gamma Emerald]

Mine

[Naerys]

Hello Titus.
I would like to add that i claimed complex mailman due to my anger at Eira

[Sleepy Dragon]

Faked Catchup: All Caught Up but 3 minutes later: WHOOPS

Creepy Celeb Encounter: You're going to die but maybe you'll live if you don't try too hard

yuck, this case on eira is about as bad as voting bingle for ignoring flavor leaf.

who tf cares if he faked a catch up? this is NAI idiosyncratically eccentric behavior.

Based on what I can see so far of his meta, his tone is definitely off this game compared to what I am seeing elsewhere like in: viewtopic.php?t=67027

uh, wha-? why are you using 7 year old meta when eiralox has plenty of recently completed town games?

Can you please do an up-to-date meta review and then let me know if you still meta scumread him, and based on what?

[Sleepy Dragon]

Oh wait was Key banned? NVM then

[Sleepy Dragon]

I'll be honest, my probably biggest scumread is Nurse, but no one seems to generally want to go their D1. I can lay off pushing on that if people would rather give them a chance to make a presence.

I do.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Hi I'm the new Outworlder

I fully expected to rep into a scum slot but instead I rolled town, so huh, a pleasant surprise.

Can someone TLDR me on the case against Eiralox and/or link it if there's already a post summarizing it?

Also, please don't expect me to play with the same level of tryharding as my main account k thanks.

Oh one final thing:

VOTE: Nurse

Serious vote.

Given that you expected ower scum what do you feel about the ower townreads?

Well given that I now know he was town, I don't think there's anything to be divulged about alignments by looking at his townreads.

I only scumread him because I didn't like his voting pattern tbh.

Still, I'll humor you:

- I do agree independently that you and Kitty are never D1 votes here.
- I dunno about Key. His cases were so far fetched it's hard to believe it's scum, but it might be sort of newbscum approach that's very different to how most newbscum play here. The thing about newbies is that their play can be very unexpected.
- I townlean gamma but I'm not really sure why.
- Don't have a read on Khaos
- I townlean Elements.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Let's All Vote Key

A thought experiment

KeyLage currently has almost 400 posts. That's nearly the same amount as the other 3 top posters combined.
Key is clogging the thread
Most of what Key is saying is just repeating himself, not actually adding any new content to the game

Alive

If Key is town

Town Key will never be night killed. His insistant spamming will always and only ever serve scum.
Key is hard tunneling players. If any of these players are town, scum can use this to get an easy mislim and then push most of the blame onto Key, lining up yet another mislim.

If Key is scum

Key is forcing the game to center around himself. The shear quantity of his posts means it's impossible for there to be a meaningful interation that doesn't involve him, letting Key influence every part of the game.
Key's play seems to be largely townread so if scum it's clearly working for him.

Dead

The thread stops being spammed by repeated posts that don't really say anything or add to the gamestate

If Key is town

There are interactions between Key and every player, therefore it is a high info flip.

If Key is scum

Good job us, we've killed a scum

OK scared scum.

I disagree with this take and also with saying Elements "jumped on" a policy lim. It's very clear they wanted to off Key and I agree that it might've been a good idea to policy them, considering right now I have like 0 motivation to read any of this game due to the spamminess of it.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Bingle, what's your read on khaos?

[Sleepy Dragon]

Why is nurse scum

in short, his low post count and his lack of scumreads/pushed are both big scum tells for him specifically

Mmmm ig that makes sense

r u gonna vote him?

[Sleepy Dragon]

Sleepy can be town too

ty

also, y?

[Sleepy Dragon]

Why is nurse scum

in short, his low post count and his lack of scumreads/pushed are both big scum tells for him specifically

He tends to have a low post count in basically every game I have played with him.

He was scum in Veiled Commitee Mafia (the one game I remember you were both in). Which other games have you played with him?

He was town in both of these games: Game 1 - 289 post ISO which is more than 10% of all posts, Game 2 - 428 post ISO which is actually only 5% of all posts, BUT this was a giant game with 23 players and you had three players who were hyperposting the entirety of Day 1, including Flavor Leaf who did 800 posts (and was the top poster). So actually half of the top poster is not that bad.

Compare to here where he has significantly less than 1% of all posts so far. Same as in Veiled Committee Mafia, where he also had less than 1% of posts (TBF he replaced out, but still had less than 1% of posts by the time he replaced).

[Sleepy Dragon]

oh no am I actually efforting?

Ok I think it's time to go back to sleep bye bye

[Sleepy Dragon]

Anyway @Drew

I correctly townlocked Nurse for being in his town meta in Large Normal 244. Right now he's not in his town meta. Hence, vote.

[Doctor Drew]

Why is nurse scum

in short, his low post count and his lack of scumreads/pushed are both big scum tells for him specifically

He tends to have a low post count in basically every game I have played with him.

He was scum in Veiled Commitee Mafia (the one game I remember you were both in). Which other games have you played with him?

He was town in both of these games: Game 1 - 289 post ISO which is more than 10% of all posts, Game 2 - 428 post ISO which is actually only 5% of all posts, BUT this was a giant game with 23 players and you had three players who were hyperposting the entirety of Day 1, including Flavor Leaf who did 800 posts (and was the top poster). So actually half of the top poster is not that bad.

Compare to here where he has significantly less than 1% of all posts so far. Same as in Veiled Committee Mafia, where he also had less than 1% of posts (TBF he replaced out, but still had less than 1% of posts by the time he replaced).

Veiled Committee Mafia has been erased from my memory.

And the games I have had played with him, he just he just hasn't made much of an impression outside of him having bouts of being inactive.

I will say any activity he he as had was before I repped in(at least any I remember).

I also am vehemently against limming lurkers on D1.

[Celebloki]

I'm kind of in that boat myself. After limming KKFC in that C9++ game we were in recently, I am more gun shy to do that. I'm trying to learn to at least give lurkers a chance to get past D1, but sometimes I find myself nowhere with who is posting on D1 and I get that hope that maybe the lurkers are just casting scum or something.

I'm also a bit of a lower volume poster myself, so it's hard not to feel hypocritical about it.

[Sleepy Dragon]

I am also against limming lurkers. I'm pro limming Nurse when he's not in his town meta

Willing to wait until Monday though to see if after the weekend he posts more, but I doubt it.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Chell can you explain your scum case on Eiralox in detail now that Key isn't here?

[Celebloki]

Honestly we'll probably end up seeing him replace out in all likelihood.

[Naerys]

Compare to here where he has significantly less than 1% of all posts so far. Same as in Veiled Committee Mafia, where he also had less than 1% of posts (TBF he replaced out, but still had less than 1% of posts by the time he replaced).

Nurse has crappy work shedule. Sometimes he is just too busy

[Elements]

Sleepy can be town too

ty

also, y?

I liked your enterance
vibe with the brazenness of it
Since then I've liked how you've been participating

[Elements]

Sleepy can be town too

ty

also, y?

I liked your enterance
vibe with the brazenness of it
Since then I've liked how you've been participating

might just be me liking your playstyle but it's enough for me day one

[Elements]

Town
Titus
Bingle
Sleepy Dragon
Gamma Emerald

KittyTacky
Eiralox
Organized Khaos
Random Nurse

Doctor Drew
Chell
Naerys
Scum

[Elements]

I think that's where my head's at atm

[Elements]

the 3 groups are in no particular order

[Sleepy Dragon]

not catching up but just trying to figure out what's the deal with eira wagon because nobody (except KL who I refuse to listen to) would give me an explanation, and right now I have a few questions.

first: where did Naerys soft mailman?

second:
Having read a few of KL's posts, I kinda hate that slot. Like 99% of their reads are bullshit, and you can call it "too scummy to be scum" if you want to but I don't really see it. So, why do you guys (especially elements who I just saw has Titus as top TR) think these really bad pushes come from town?

three: what's the scum case on Naerys? Her TRing KL?

Four: ugh, has no one here played with eiralox before? they (or he? not sure) is known for having a disagreeable / unpalatable playstyle. Why is that scummy? Like Gamma, you've played with Eira in TL's Grandest Idea, they were town despite the annoying, against the grain attitude.