Mini Normal 2316 | Halloween | Endgame

[AnimatedWiz]

My currently scumteam is Roden/OWER/BlackStar, and in that order.

I don't get why Roden is so high on that list

His slot’s interactions with me early on in D1 made me incredibly suspicious of the a lot—the arguments felt disingenuous and like it was less about pushing his own theories as much as it was about trying to push me onto the chopping block. OWER jumped on that wagon with even more spurious logic, and notably BlackStar was also on there too.

I think I was the miselim target for the scumteam for the beginning of D1—that my hasty read of Naerys was an easy argument for pushing me.

Additionally, the way Roden’s been playing the game, with a lot of lurking mixed with quick bits of AtE—not to mention an open unwillingness to contribute
—all strengthen that point. Roden isn’t giving any illusion of solving with his posts, and the fact that he hasn’t even finished that initial catch-up readslist or shared more than tiny little nuggets of thoughts makes it clear to me that he’s scum.

[AnimatedWiz]

VOTE: Roden.

[Black]

I… have a theory about what happened with THS’s night abilities, but I don’t want to say anything until everyone claims.

What was this about

[usesPython]

My currently scumteam is Roden/OWER/BlackStar, and in that order.

I don't get why Roden is so high on that list

His slot’s interactions with me early on in D1 made me incredibly suspicious of the a lot—the arguments felt disingenuous and like it was less about pushing his own theories as much as it was about trying to push me onto the chopping block. OWER jumped on that wagon with even more spurious logic, and notably BlackStar was also on there too.

I think I was the miselim target for the scumteam for the beginning of D1—that my hasty read of Naerys was an easy argument for pushing me.

Additionally, the way Roden’s been playing the game, with a lot of lurking mixed with quick bits of AtE—not to mention an open unwillingness to contribute
—all strengthen that point. Roden isn’t giving any illusion of solving with his posts, and the fact that he hasn’t even finished that initial catch-up readslist or shared more than tiny little nuggets of thoughts makes it clear to me that he’s scum.

Still don't get how a Roden lim is more likely to hit red than what's mechanically basically a 1f1

[Black]

Python why do you think Roden is town

[AnimatedWiz]

I… have a theory about what happened with THS’s night abilities, but I don’t want to say anything until everyone claims.

What was this about

Ooh, thanks for reminding me! It was just my theory about there being a Mafia Roleblocker instead of the other possibilities—when I said this, Smiley had already said he was the cause of the N1 action not going through, so only the N2 action was left.

[usesPython]

Python why do you think Roden is town

Only thing in our notes is a DE read so idk, but if their posting was that bad I figure we'd have probably commented on it there at some point

[usesPython]

Python why do you think Roden is town

Only thing in our notes is a DE read so idk, but if their posting was that bad I figure we'd have probably commented on it there at some point

Like if Rodens dayplay was so scummy that they're more likely to flip red than a 1f1 or an unexplained no result why is there nothing about it in our notes PT

[Black]

You don't have any notes on the DE slot since Roden replaced in? I find that hard to believe

[Enchant]

Are day still going

[usesPython]

You don't have any notes on the DE slot since Roden replaced in?

Yeah? The only interesting thing they did this game was get into a fight with you, the rest of the game they've been ignored while other stuff kept happening

[usesPython]

Not like we comment on every little thing

[usesPython]

Are day still going

Be the change you want to see in the world

[Black]

UNVOTE:

I think there's an argument to be made that BlackStar will either be a NK target or he'll die by protecting someone. If neither of those things happen then it should be safe to fade him closer to ELO

I think the better play is to fade python first, or Roden/Naerys if we want to try to go for a VT

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

I think there's an argument to be made that BlackStar will either be a NK target or he'll die by protecting someone. If neither of those things happen then it should be safe to fade him closer to ELO

I think the better play is to fade python first, or Roden/Naerys if we want to try to go for a VT

Good idea.

It's not like we have unaccounted roleblocks somewhere.

And it's not like we have macho targets which BG can't protect.

[Black]

If I assume BlackStar is town then I think the most likely scenario here is that Smiley blocked python from making the NK

VOTE: usesPython

[Black]

And it's not like we have macho targets which BG can't protect.

If BlackStar really is the BG then why would he ever target me? What is the point of saying this?

[Enchant]

And it's not like we have macho targets which BG can't protect.

If BlackStar really is the BG then why would he ever target me? What is the point of saying this?

I mean that your reasoning is useless, BlackStar never dies.

[usesPython]

UNVOTE:

I think there's an argument to be made that BlackStar will either be a NK target or he'll die by protecting someone. If neither of those things happen then it should be safe to fade him closer to ELO

I think the better play is to fade python first, or Roden/Naerys if we want to try to go for a VT

If I assume BlackStar is town then I think the most likely scenario here is that Smiley blocked python from making the NK

VOTE: usesPython

Mechanically speaking from your perspective Blackstar never gets shot while we're still alive and he won't die protecting someone because of the combo of unaccounted for no result + you being Macho makes there be enough safe kills

[usesPython]

And it's not like we have macho targets which BG can't protect.

If BlackStar really is the BG then why would he ever target me? What is the point of saying this?

The point is that if he were real there'd still be a guaranteed kill he can't stop so your mech solve is bad

[Enchant]

I am not against Python, it's just your reasoning as lacking.

[usesPython]

Like there's no real mech solve to be made here that narrows it down further than Python/Blackstar being a 1f1 no matter how long we delay it

[OutWorldER]

BlackStar's BG is not confirm-able at this point. We don't have any more roles that get results back (meaning we cannot know who was roleblocked in nights beyond this day) unless Enchant is a PR, and if he's scum he hides behind that on future days and if Town his BG is near-useless at this stage. There's no real benefit to keeping him alive here and of the two possible options (assuming Smiley's JK is real) he's the far more likely scum since his night 2 action makes no sense.

[Black]

I am not against Python, it's just your reasoning as lacking.

Yeah I'm not very big brain unfortchie

[Black]

Oh wow OWER is still here. And he jumps in to stop a python wagon? Hmm