Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[KittyTacky]

I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.

Like, does seem like someone with a town mindset makes this post?

This is what I, and I assume Roden, were talking about with a soul read.

Also claiming VT before E-1 seems a bit odd for town to do imo.

How is it not a town mindset?

And I panicked when I claimed it. I have the right to flip out when I get flashwagoned 1 page in after my first post of the day.

[KittyTacky]

Sorry, been a busy day and it will be a busy next few days. Hosting some house guests and a Friendsgiving in a couple days. I hopefully will still get some posting in late nights or here and there.

I have also noticed a distinct change in Kitty's overall presence and tone from Open 890 (C9++). I may have intent to hammer, but I do still want to give Kitty a chance to respond and to gather my thoughts, do so more re-reading before I make that decision.

C9++ was not one of my proudest games honestly. I kind of slept that game. I sometimes sleep as town. When I don't sleep that doesn't make me scum. It means I am not sleeping.

[KittyTacky]

I agree with that to an extent.

I get the Roden reads, I think it’s solid.

I’m just in a situation where I can just see that Kitty is scum here.

I read Kitty as scum almost every time they are scum.

I like the energy against the Kitty wagon too.

Well you'll be wrong this time.

[KittyTacky]

I don't want to push FL. I don't townread FL either. I have kinda given up on reading FL ever.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: yessiree

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Yesiree

[KittyTacky]

Also I kinda hate having to pull this out but fyi for people who don't know, I am autistic so that's why I always play like this.

[Flavor Leaf]

This tracks with Kitty likely being scarred by my gambit in the Micro I was scum a little while back.

[Naerys]

VOTE: Doctor Drew
i can see Drew and Vanderscamp as buddies

Without any other context this loojs like you selected two random names that participated in wheme/kitty wagons. Vander isn't even on the kitty wagon. Please elaborate

Drew´s position on wagons is pretty bad, in my opinion. Also his comments like "hopefully this will gain me some townie points" are suspicious. Overall this Drew does not feel like he is solving at all.
When it comes to Vander, the fact he was not at that point on kitty wagon was exactly reason i suspect him. While Drew remained on the same place in 2 wagons, i believe the other 2 scums switched their places. I need to think about, who the 3rd scum might be, but Drew+Vander feel like solid suspects to me.

[Naerys]

And frankly, I hate to use this, and I won’t actually use it as a reason, I’ll find more over time, but RN replacing out this early like that is scum indicative on a meta level.

RN didnt even confirm his role. This looks more like bad IRL stuff than rolling as scum. Flavor, this was a BAD post from you.

[KittyTacky]

This tracks with Kitty likely being scarred by my gambit in the Micro I was scum a little while back.

I think that was the game that made me throw in the towel with that yeah.

[Looker]

Looker Sus.

3 of the people who voted with me are my middle tier

Your list looked more like pandering for support than scumhunting, aka a politician.

VOTE: Roden, for previous reasons and the trend I'm seeing with blind wagoning.

[ActionDan]

It may well be 12 hours before I can examine recent developments

[Vanderscamp]

"He's putting in more effort so he must be scum because he puts in more effort as scum" is a fallacious 'tell'. Maybe I'm taking this game more seriously.

Is it fallacious or just annoying from your perspective?

[Flavor Leaf]

And frankly, I hate to use this, and I won’t actually use it as a reason, I’ll find more over time, but RN replacing out this early like that is scum indicative on a meta level.

RN didnt even confirm his role. This looks more like bad IRL stuff than rolling as scum. Flavor, this was a BAD post from you.

I’ll believe it when i see it

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, nothing is bad. Get out of that toxic mindset.

[Elements]

VOTE: Yesiree

we moving wagons?
VOTE: yesiree

[Flavor Leaf]

I also said I specifically wouldn’t use that as a reason, so anyone who keeps bringing it up, is the one who is using it and trying to keep that alive.

It’s simply a ‘if you’re in Elo and yessiree slot alive lean’

Anyone who uses it further than that is keeping it alive

So it is now Naerys’s

[Flavor Leaf]

Not the best post by you Naerys to keep using that
, probs should move on from that. Nobody gonna take that seriously

[Elements]

What's with all the Roden hate?

[Elements]

@mod

I'll be v/la 21st-23rd inclusive

[Elements]

FL feels very different to 245

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: Doctor Drew
i can see Drew and Vanderscamp as buddies

Without any other context this loojs like you selected two random names that participated in wheme/kitty wagons. Vander isn't even on the kitty wagon. Please elaborate

Drew´s position on wagons is pretty bad, in my opinion. Also his comments like "hopefully this will gain me some townie points" are suspicious. Overall this Drew does not feel like he is solving at all.
When it comes to Vander, the fact he was not at that point on kitty wagon was exactly reason i suspect him. While Drew remained on the same place in 2 wagons, i believe the other 2 scums switched their places. I need to think about, who the 3rd scum might be, but Drew+Vander feel like solid suspects to me.

I hadn't posted in the thread at all at that point, and when I did, I joined the kitty wagon.

Do you still feel like I'm a solid suspect for that reason?

[Vanderscamp]

I don't understand why we're moving from the kitty wagon, I don't find anything they've said recently towny.

I also think Naerys' posts today are very bad.
If we're moving wagons I would rather go there.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't understand why we're moving from the kitty wagon, I don't find anything they've said recently towny.

I also think Naerys' posts today are very bad.
If we're moving wagons I would rather go there.

I think it’s a mix of AtE/meta, where I personally haven’t ever seen Kitty fight like that to stay alive, as either alignment.

When they’re caught, and pressured that hard, they normally come in awkward and still go down, where here, I think they made a connection to some people, and AtE was in fact pretty strong.

But I understand why some wouldn’t buy it, it just felt like others needed more to end up limming Kitty, and if Kitty is scum, they did enough to avoid getting the required votes on them.

I will say, though, if Kitty is town, scum moving off of Kitty after Kitty claimed VT is highly likely.