Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Prism]

There's a world where Fire leaves over imaginality just to be cruel/troll/play with the food, but I think the risk of losing from that is just too high. Fire staying isn't an obvious win, as with an imaginality flip Dragons and T3 look better, but imaginality is always going to be in so much worse of a spot.

I don't really see why Fire leaves unless someone strongly townread

has to leave

, and that really leaves me/jjh/gob.

[Prism]

at this point anyone with a half convincing case could probably get my vote because nothing feels good or correct

I am still afraid you are scum that is just the worst-ing your way to a win. Nothing sets my soul at ease, and I instead just accept the potential disaster.

[Ydrasse]

at this point anyone with a half convincing case could probably get my vote because nothing feels good or correct

I am still afraid you are scum that is just the worst-ing your way to a win. Nothing sets my soul at ease, and I instead just accept the potential disaster.

the worst was tap dancing and then pretending to look worried every once in a while i am actively beaten down by the scum this game belly up and accepting the fact a loss is probably for my own inability to find a good suspect

[Prism]

Alright, well, I have to switch to reading law now, but I'll try and circle back after 5p EST to do jjh then T3.

[T3]

VOTE: jjh

[Prism]

T3 I think you're town but you're killing me by following my spitballs. I don't scumread it I'm just thinking "Oh my god please don't listen to me"

[Prism]

I don't agree with most of imaginality's analysis on jjh but I have concurring thoughts that those posts are +scum.

[Prism]

Actually, my squabbles are minor and I suspect the rest is quite good. Maybe my ideas are more of a "yes, and", but I'll get to it.

[jjh927]

I think the solution might just be that Imaginality is the player who is in the least pain

[Prism]

Can you clarify what has changed about your pairing spreadsheet/speculation?

You previously thought only Ydrasse made sense. You struck off imaginality and seemed to concur that Fire's Day 2 vote was a strong +town indicator for imaginality. How do you feel about Dragons at the moment?

[jjh927]

I've read through everything I felt like reading. I think I'm much happier with town!Ydra and yes, I am still happy with town!Prism

Firebringer/Imag was the weakest ruling out of a pairing I put in there and it was mainly around me suggesting the likely behaviours of scum!Fire, which I don't think I understood very well

I still don't think it's STD. I'm still basically ruling out STD and Gob on the grounds that the game should already have been lost from my point of view if exactly 1 of them was scum.

T3 exists but I think he's genuine in having no idea what is going on any more and I've not seen anything alarming in meta


Then there's imag

[jjh927]

But like, looking back, I ruled out Imag/Fire because "Why would Fire see a significant wagon on his first buddy and then support a counterwagon on his second buddy"
but like

yeah Fire might well do that

[Prism]

So 1. What did you like about Ydrasse? 2. What did you

think

of the meta attempt?

I'm not necessarily asking for a giant play-by-play here but these are black box conclusions right now.

[Prism]

I'm town and have many interactions to point to for it, but earlier you seemed to think it was my level of proactivity+effort, and maybe some tone, that made me town and that by actions alone I would be scummy. Multiple players have indicated those were well within my range, so the total lack of interest was pretty ?_? to me.

[jjh927]

I think I'd got carried away on Ydrasse not voting very much and having a bit of a lower presence as scum when it's generally not a very pronounced difference looking at some more towngames

[Prism]

That's a great reason to slot her in null. I don't see why that puts her in your townpile.

[jjh927]

In terms of you, I didn't exactly observe anything blatantly glaring or whatever and obviously in broad strokes the level of engagement and effort is within your scumrange, but also it didn't change my mind at all that I don't think you actually could plausibly fake what you've done here. I'm rejecting the idea that your scumgame could perfectly emulate this towngame of yours

[jjh927]

That's a great reason to slot her in null. I don't see why that puts her in your townpile.

Ydra should have stayed in my townpile the whole time. She's been solving and I don't think anything she's done this game could be described as scum-motivated except

possibly

involvement with the Titus elimination which my hands aren't clean with either

[Prism]

Both of those posts are both very vague and very certain. I don't get it.

[Prism]

I'm totally befuddled because I don't think this makes much sense for town-jjh, but this is the single worst way to play out this discussion as scum-jjh that I can imagine.

[Prism]

jjh, are you still around by chance?

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