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Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:13 am

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Snivy can u tell me why you sheeping someone who is talking about meta that doesn't even exist?
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Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 3073, Sleepy Dragon wrote:
In post 3068, camelCasedSnivy wrote: lets sheep gob but if anyone realizes bingle is scum hmu

UNVOTE: Bingle

VOTE: Sleepy Dragon
Why you sheeping gob?
because gob is my biggest scumread duh

about the meta argument ill check that
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Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:18 am

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In post 3069, gob wrote: I actually liked Snivy. Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game. Chell I liked before, but I haven't seen them post much at all. and they were necessarily out of their scum meta. So I would be fine voting Chell. I am super confident one of those 3 are mafia btw. Like 100%
Hmmm I guess it would be pretty bold to have all 3 scum on wagon (but really not impossible)

And Chell has been underperforming...

BUT I am pretty sure she's super busy IRL considering she's been MIA in other areas of the site soooo I dunno

Hopefully she picks up and starts posting more OR she gets replaced by someone who has more time
In post 3069, gob wrote: [Titus/Sleepy Dragon]
Why do you think there's one scum here?
In post 3069, gob wrote: Talking to Sleepy feels like I'm talking to an uncharitable wall, which is usually how I feel talking to mafia.
I disagree, I've been trying to talk with you and understand your viewpoint.
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Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:19 am

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hold on an i misunderstanding

are you claiming gob is faking your meta or his?
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Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:22 am

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UNVOTE: gob

Pedit: I am saying gob just said "Naerys is not in her scum game" when she doesn't have any scum games...

And you might call it strawman fallacy but I genuinely think that implies something about the quality of gob's reads / play.
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Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:22 am

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Anyway I'm willing to look at scum!Chell but she needs to exist or something.
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Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:23 am

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I could also just vote Bingle again IG.
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Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 3067, Sleepy Dragon wrote: Sure let's do something else

Why is Titus scum? Didn't you say she was TvT with Bingle?

Why is Bingle town to you?
I admit i was TRing KeyLaga when he was running wild here. But looking back i have to admit i am becoming suspicious of this slot. This slot has its fair share of guilt on the fact we almost had no lim D1. And Elements and Eira rolling town made me rethink some stuff. Like i accepted Gamma (now gob) TRing KL (i think it was Gamma lol, hope i didnt mix it up). Based on that i think Gamma-KL (now Titus-Gob) interactions are suspicious. I havent seen Titus interact with gob all that much, which makes me wary a lot. So i definitely wish to solve in Titus/Gob today.
As for Binge i´ve got feeling like he is genuinely trying to solve the game. I will elaborate tomorrow.
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Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:26 am

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KeyLaga´s confidence doesnt feel all that good for me, now that i am looking back at it.
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Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:28 am

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In post 3072, Naerys wrote:
In post 3069, gob wrote: Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game
What scum game? I have 0 scum games
Really? I must be misremembering then.
In post 3074, Sleepy Dragon wrote:
In post 3069, gob wrote: Naerys I remember thinking she was distinctly different from her scum game
And you know that how?
I thought I did but I guess I was wrong.
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Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:43 pm

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In post 3079, Sleepy Dragon wrote: UNVOTE: gob

Pedit: I am saying gob just said "Naerys is not in her scum game" when she doesn't have any scum games...

And you might call it strawman fallacy but I genuinely think that implies something about the quality of gob's reads / play.
Umm......I was just gonna say this makes Gob look worse to me.
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Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:53 pm

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catching up!
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Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:33 pm

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@dragon

I'll try to pop in as much as I can tonight but I'll be out running errands. if it's real time interaction you want I'll commit to spending most of my free time tomorrow on this game during the day
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Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm

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it feels icky but i kind of just want to kill organized khaos today

i was playing under the assumption that khaos if town would eventually find something to care about and latch onto but im not really seeing that

and i don't want to live in a world where i have to sort that slot in a limlo
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Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm

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gob what do you know of my scum meta ?
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Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:39 pm

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In post 3088, Chell wrote: it feels icky but i kind of just want to kill organized khaos today

i was playing under the assumption that khaos if town would eventually find something to care about and latch onto but im not really seeing that

and i don't want to live in a world where i have to sort that slot in a limlo
I am there with you, and like you I kinda don't like it.
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Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:42 pm

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i also find it pretty suspicious that despite me voting khaos in the twilight hours of D1 the wagon managed to find another target, despite khaos probably being about the easiest target ever

and even now people aren't really including him in scum teams?
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Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:42 pm

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like khaos is the type of slot that is like a MAGNET for scum because it's so easy to push
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Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:43 pm

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VOTE: organized khaos
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Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:46 pm

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kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos


reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve
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Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:48 pm

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gob's read on both me and naerys is wholly made up as far as i can tell
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Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:49 pm

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re: gamma

I feel I am usually able to town read gamma more via tone

while gamma's reaction to pressure matched up from what I'd expect from her town meta, and in fact was the opposite of her scum reaction in this recently finished game: viewtopic.php?t=91847

i do know that gamma also cares about her scum game and has gone a long time without rolling scum before this

so her reaction being better in this game seems more likely to be a consequence of being in this game from the start and being in a much better position than her replace into a bad scum situation in that game
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Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:50 pm

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In post 3094, Chell wrote: kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos

reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve
Thats a good point actually. If it is one of them its khaos btw. I am going with what i said since that is almost assured (my poe of 3)

I feel like Titus and Sleepy are using bad on my wagon. Mainly sleepy using the logic and titus following. But you can ignore those two if you want.
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Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:51 pm

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I don't really know who the third would be and I'm not going to go too far speculating about solves until I have gotten a red flip

I'm troublingly short on town reads but I do think Sleepy Dragon and Titus are town

if my reads are remotely close to right Drew should probably lean town as well
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Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:51 pm

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In post 3097, gob wrote:
In post 3094, Chell wrote: kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos

reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve
Thats a good point actually. If it is one of them its khaos btw. I am going with what i said since that is almost assured (my poe of 3)

I feel like Titus and Sleepy are using bad on my wagon. Mainly sleepy using the logic and titus following. But you can ignore those two if you want.
let's vote khaos then

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