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┌────────────────────┬──────┬──────┬───────┐ │ player │ hurt │ heal │ total │ ├────────────────────┼──────┼──────┼───────┤ │ biancospino │ 3 │ 5 │ -2 │ │ whemestar │ 26 │ 0 │ 26 │ │ highprincesserinys │ 0 │ 1 │ -1 │ │ meuh │ 0 │ 1 │ -1 │ │ aureal │ 0 │ 1 │ -1 │ ├────────────────────┼──────┼──────┼───────┤ │ total │ 29 │ 7 │ 21 │ └────────────────────┴──────┴──────┴───────┘
to be fairIn post 173, jjh927 wrote: I think based on everyone in the game appearing in the votecount, everyone has a vote.
It is more likely that either there is a role making the number to eliminate lower, or something is making us perceive it as such. The rules say a majority is needed for an execution but the votecounts talk about chomping on dust
we also have the situation of there being ten players alive when only nine people signed up so
that seems extremely likely to also be involved in why it is five to eliminate when ten alive
not to mention the fact that secret alts were specifically not allowed to sign up for the game and wesley is uhhhh
well
made specifically for this game it seems like but stillalter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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I do have a theory on the existence of player 10 but other than voting the slot I'm gonna keep quiet on that too"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Theta Alpine she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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i mean if they wanted us to know they would have told us by now so
much like my own role it is going to be a question of what to do about italter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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I didn't really detect anything that swayed me either way, I think they seem lax and that's town-indicative but it's not something I'd assert with confidence or without more informationIn post 145, jjh927 wrote: What do you actually think of Wheme here
I mainly thought that hurtingThetawould weaken WIM but that's partially me projecting if I were in her shoes.
What do you think about the townreads onWhemethat followed yours?
Then how do you readIn post 147, jjh927 wrote: I have a very good readrate on whemeWheme?
Why do you want to increase the HP?
What is your read on her play thus far?In post 167, jjh927 wrote: Everyone please neglect what I just said. Theta Alpine will definitely die when she is killed
UNVOTE:"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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jjh927 Survivor
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If my theory is right then it loses almost all of its utility if it's revealed"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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kabouter wesleywasn't the player that /in'd right?"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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Theta Alpine she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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i mean
i am not gonna confirm whatever your theory is jjh regardless of if it is right or wrong
at least not at the moment
hmm
UNVOTE:
wheme do you have any thoughts about people other then me yet
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kabouter wesley did not sign up for this game no
and their only posts are within this game
so it is safe to say they are an account made specifically for this gamealter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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folks make alts for games all the timeIn post 183, Theta Alpine wrote: kabouter wesley did not sign up for this game no
and their only posts are within this game
so it is safe to say they are an account made specifically for this game-
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i think we should take theta down to 50-
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jjh927 Survivor
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Okay, that's a lot of questions for meIn post 180, Taly wrote:
I didn't really detect anything that swayed me either way, I think they seem lax and that's town-indicative but it's not something I'd assert with confidence or without more informationIn post 145, jjh927 wrote: What do you actually think of Wheme here
I mainly thought that hurtingThetawould weaken WIM but that's partially me projecting if I were in her shoes.
What do you think about the townreads onWhemethat followed yours?
Then how do you readIn post 147, jjh927 wrote: I have a very good readrate on whemeWheme?
Why do you want to increase the HP?
What is your read on her play thus far?In post 167, jjh927 wrote: Everyone please neglect what I just said. Theta Alpine will definitely die when she is killed
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The townreads that followed are kinda NAI to me in isolation, same as the suspicion of those townreads other than yours which got you a couple of town points. Might be worth coming back to them if down the line these slots are lacking in originality.
The best way to read Wheme is that his scumgame is extremely deliberate and he does things he believes will advance his win condition. Town wheme does whatever he wants to and takes whatever action he thinks is correct, but is a lot easier to sway and more amenable to engage with logical arguments. On a really surface level, scum!Wheme might see an argument that conflicts with what he is saying or doing, and acknowledge it but just say nah I don't agree. Town!Wheme will see the same argument, and even if he disagrees I think he acknowledges the argument in some light at least.
On a more advanced level, Whemestar is essentially a prime example of where my main townhunting methodology works best because in psychological terms, when town!wheme gives up some ground in an argument it is almost always informational and not normative influence that is the cause. I've played a lot of games with Wheme at this point so I've got a lot of familiarity there, and then I also think he's probably one of the more transparent players when you're looking at this anyway.
Theta's play is highly mech orientated at the moment but I think in a way that was intended to generate information, so I am leaning town but it depends what is done with the information when it is generated. Otherwise, because it's mostly around public mech, her play feels pretty NAI at this point in time"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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My unshared theory on kabouter wesley? Yeah you'd have difficulty confirming that oneIn post 183, Theta Alpine wrote: i am not gonna confirm whatever your theory is jjh regardless of if it is right or wrong"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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i mean yes but alsoIn post 184, kabouter wesley wrote:
folks make alts for games all the timeIn post 183, Theta Alpine wrote: kabouter wesley did not sign up for this game no
and their only posts are within this game
so it is safe to say they are an account made specifically for this game
from the signups threadthe only way you could be here in the game is if you are the product of a role causing you to be added to the game
i have proposed a vote-equivalent method if people want to agree with itIn post 185, kabouter wesley wrote: i think we should take theta down to 50
which is to limit people to only having 17 unhealed damage on me each
in which case it would take 6 people hurting me 17 times to get me over 100 damage which is enough to kill me
and if we agreed to that then anyone going above 17 active damage is extremely suspect
course this does not factor in people doing healing to get to negative damage from themselves as well but i could try to figure out a strategy that works in a negative damage cap as well
ohIn post 187, jjh927 wrote:
My unshared theory on kabouter wesley? Yeah you'd have difficulty confirming that oneIn post 183, Theta Alpine wrote: i am not gonna confirm whatever your theory is jjh regardless of if it is right or wrong
yeah i got a little confused sorryalter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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I love the chaotic vibe here but if this isn't based on a scumread I don't see the pointIn post 185, kabouter wesley wrote: i think we should take theta down to 50
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jjhI can't make it too easy for you, we'refAmoUSafter all
I just finished a game with bothThetaandWhemeand neither feel totally different off first glance. They were both town, and I suspected both of them seriously at least once in the game haha..."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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thetawas mech-oriented too"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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64 thenIn post 189, Taly wrote: I love the chaotic vibe here but if this isn't based on a scumread I don't see the point-
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hmm
how about for each person in day 1 up to 20 active hurts for a scum read on me and up to 10 active heals for a town read on me
which is to say that the number for each person in the last column of the table i made earlier should only range from 20 to -10
this would result in
five people fully scum reading me causing me to die if no one else townreads me
otherwise six people fully scumreading me can overpower two that fully think i am town
does that sound fair to everyonealter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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Theta Alpine she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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or of course you could go lawless in regards to heal/hurt on me but if you want to limit people to at least the same amount of total information that votes would provide then the above limitation does thatalter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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I don't think implementing a strict voting system would provide an accurate measurement of people's read strength or confidence, and that it would not be too realistic to keep people in a specific range.
But I do townping you for trying and I'd rather not see your HP bar dwindling. It feels rolefishy to do hurt just to see what happens.
Speaking of role fishy,jjh, what do you intend to get out of votingkabouter?"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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Are you saying you think the actual number for an elimination is different and the five to chomp dust is a misdirection? That's just Skygazer's flavor, she likes coming up with all sorts of weird ideas there.In post 173, jjh927 wrote: I think based on everyone in the game appearing in the votecount, everyone has a vote.
It is more likely that either there is a role making the number to eliminate lower, or something is making us perceive it as such. The rules say a majority is needed for an execution but the votecounts talk about chomping on dust"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Think it's like the opposite, that it SHOULD be different but 5 might be the real number.In post 195, Aureal wrote:
Are you saying you think the actual number for an elimination is different and the five to chomp dust is a misdirection? That's just Skygazer's flavor, she likes coming up with all sorts of weird ideas there.In post 173, jjh927 wrote: I think based on everyone in the game appearing in the votecount, everyone has a vote.
It is more likely that either there is a role making the number to eliminate lower, or something is making us perceive it as such. The rules say a majority is needed for an execution but the votecounts talk about chomping on dust-
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