Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[ActionDan]

I'm objectively null imo. I think a lot of people are just blatantly townie so I'm not upset being in the POE.

No need to throw the kitchen sink at me!

[ActionDan]

If you somehow have a guilty that's NOT on looker that's an even better result. However I have everyone else as basically town. I even looked at celeb last night and softened my stance greatly.

[ActionDan]

AD def scummy. I scum read them when they were town on a game i don’t speak about anymore.

So they could be town here. They kept trying to dissuade my town read on certain slots yesterday, and they tried to defend the Yessiree claim while saying they don’t like it but they think it comes from town.

Curious which game.

I never defended yessiree claim nor called it town.

Out of like 5 town reads I believe I pushed back on kitty and celeb only at the time of your reference, while elevating drew.

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s fair.

Yeah, Looker probs just scum

[ActionDan]

This is my view of the game state, assuming all claims true thus far:

POE:

ME
Looker
Vander (only here because its a possibility)

Town:

Everyone else.

Unless I am underestimating naeyrs kitty, which I don't think I am.

If someone has lied about night actions / role thus far its roden and no one else.


L

[ActionDan]

Do you agree?

[Gamma Emerald]

Naerys is hard town imo because of FL’s result and the current night action landscape

[ActionDan]

Scum have multi-task, can alientech + personal ability. I agree she hard town by play

[KittyTacky]

I don't think Looker is particularly scummy, but Yess death didn't really clear or even point against him so I wouldn't really oppose a lim there.

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum have multi-task, can alientech + personal ability. I agree she hard town by play

You forget the nature of FL’s clear. He did not see Naerys act at all.

[Flavor Leaf]

im so glad my yessiree soul read ended up being right

[KittyTacky]

I doubt BOTH scum jumped on my wagon at once, that would take colossal balls, doubt it's Roden.

[KittyTacky]

Even if Roden backed away it's still not good optics to naked vote twice in a row like that.

[Flavor Leaf]

cant see Gamma ever scum here. her posts have all made sense, and i think with my guilty, it makes it effectively impossible for Gamma to be scum too. so they're IC basically.

Drew can be scum here setting up a gambit on Roden if they knew they were given the vulnerable modifier. Just want that stressed moving forward if we get to late game and Drew still lives.

[Flavor Leaf]

they did start to try to push Gamma onto me after I started voting Yessiree.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also can't help but shake a feeling of Yessiree saying Drew was throwing by voting Yess as genuine talking to scum buddy.

[Naerys]

I am vanilla.

[Flavor Leaf]

ok do yall wanna vote Celeb with me?

Hello, I'm kinda back, will still be sparsely available until after Thursday probably.

I think I believe the Elements claim for now. There must be another inventor if what Roden claims is true because Elements wouldn't have been able to make something N1 if I understand the

modifiers

right.

I think in 224 Roden was asking if Elements was able to do an invention, what could they invent.

there was this word that he used that pinged me back then, "modifiers". That's not a normal reaction to an Inventor claim. Inventors make you think X-shot of active abilities

I don't remember any modifiers being mentioned. The language used by Elements and Roden are inventions. I don't get how Celeb makes that connection unless he knows something we don't

This thread clears Celebloki for me, I think.

Had absolutely no clue what Yessiree was talking about at the time, and that’s because Yessiree knew the inventions were modifiers.

Celeb was referring to Novice modifier in Elements claim.

[Celebloki]

Ok, I've gone back and re-read the game. I was hard shading Roden all game, but imo now he's conf town. Given my frail get last night, his vulnerable makes sense from some kind of Alien Inventor. I still think there's some equity between Roden v Drew, obviously on Drew at this point.

Looker probably looks the worst on re-read. Based on the way he shaded those on the Wheme wagon, could be TMI. He also shaded those on the Kitty wagon, but I'm not sure what to think of Kitty still. I agree with FL's 338 response to 328. The following might be interesting to look at. Looker asking AD for reads. If Looker is scum, is more than yess a scum buddy in that list.

It may well be 12 hours before I can examine recent developments

Do yessiree, Roden, KittyTacky, and Doctor Drew seem town to you

I wanted to bring this post from Yes back when he analyzed the wagon on him and speculated who were scum. Thinks the scum on him is Kitty. This maybe gives Kitty more town cred.

VC 2.03

yessiree (4):

Roden, KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf, Elements

Roden (3):

Doctor Drew, Looker, Vanderscamp

KittyTacky (1):

yessiree

Doctor Drew (1):

Naerys

Not Voting (3):

Celebloki, ActionDan, Gamma Emerald

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.
There are (expired on 2023-11-24 13:03:03) left in the deadline.

As always, if my votecounts are off, let me know. I will fix them!

i believe only thing thats changed is Gamma's vote
1 scum on me, kitty since i dont think its Roden or Elements

Calls out Kitty, doesn't think Elements

1 scum on Roden in {Looker, Vander}

Left out Drew

1 scum off both wagons, currently leaning in {Naerys, Celeb}

Left out AD, Gamma

if there's 2 scums off wagons it's probably ActionDan the deepwolf but I'll also eat my shoe if that's the case

As for the rest. I am believing FL's claim, from that I believe Naerys is Town. I think Roden has to be as well. Based on how EoD yesterday went Gamma has to be town. For now I am town binning Kitty based on the above.

Scum has to be in Looker, AD, Drew, Vanderscamp, Elements in that order.

I have a longshot conspiracy theory that Elements may be the deep wolf of the group. Called out being Vanillaized early but is actually the Alien Vanillaizer. Had to put on my tin foil hat for that one.

[ActionDan]

Scum have multi-task, can alientech + personal ability. I agree she hard town by play

You forget the nature of FL’s clear. He did not see Naerys act at all.

The thought is that either Yessiree does both faction ability / rolecop or scum #2 does vanillize / faction ability while scum #3 doesn't act.

@FL I think Drew being scum makes town max have JOAT / novice inventor (pending other claims to come) . I know aliens have 1 shot factional kill but I think this may border on not enough town power.

[Elements]

@FL I think Drew being scum makes town max have JOAT / novice inventor (pending other claims to come) . I know aliens have 1 shot factional kill but I think this may border on not enough town power.

tbf, you don't know what my inventions are yet

[ActionDan]

I think my statement still holds even if you have cop / watcher / JK

[KittyTacky]

I have a longshot conspiracy theory that Elements may be the deep wolf of the group. Called out being Vanillaized early but is actually the Alien Vanillaizer. Had to put on my tin foil hat for that one.

So you're saying vanillaizer holstered, or risked getting a second vanillaise claimed and be put in an an awkward situation? Yeah this is very much a crackpot theory.

[Flavor Leaf]

Elements, what were your inventions?

[Elements]

Elements, what were your inventions?

hey gang
have things to do so can't

stop

by for long

Rolestop

seeing as no one got

shot

i thought it would be good to let you know I've been vannilaised
I was a novice inventor

Desperado shot

Bloodhound
I couldn't think of anyway to crumb dog or blood at the time but I could've said something like "I'll try and check back in every now and again now I think about it