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[gob]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

[Taly]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

None of this addresses the trajectory of the counter wagon, the vote changes or why the

Elements/(Khaos/Taly)

wagons were TvS

[Taly]

hi taly

hI

dANn

[Chell]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

gob where has this reasoning been all day

like you did not care about khaos being a counter wagon until i pointed it out and you still haven't even been pushing it until taly replaced in

[Titus]

2.16

Votecount 2.16

Organized Khaos (E-2): Naerys, Titus,

Celebloki

, Chell
camelCasedSnivy (3): Doctor Drew, Bingle, gob
Doctor Drew (2): camelCasedSnivy, Sleepy Dragon
Chell (1): Organized Khaos

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution or 5 to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-28 12:17:09).

1.39

Votecount 1.39

Eiralox (E-2): Doctor Drew, KittyTacky, Organized Khaos, Gamma Emerald, Bingle
Gamma Emerald (4): Chell, Titus, Eiralox, Elements
Bingle (1): camelCasedSnivy

Not Voting (3):

Celebloki

, Naerys, Sleepy Dragon

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

1.44

Votecount 1.44

Elements (E-2): KittyTacky, Bingle, Titus, Doctor Drew, Gamma Emerald
Bingle (E-2): Sleepy Dragon, Chell, Naerys, Elements, camelCasedSnivy
Eiralox (1): Organized Khaos
Gamma Emerald (1): Eiralox

Not Voting (1):

Celebloki

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

These 3 vcs tell the game I think.

[Titus]

Ugh it might be gob Khaos by vca.

[Titus]

Gob Khaos bingle

[Taly]

That's not how you spell

Taly

and you forgot the bold

Also I find it a bit bizarre there's whole scumteam solves prior to any scumflip, it reads as disingenuous

[Naerys]

Bingle: somewhere said gob/Khaos is unlikely (i hope i remember it right)
Gob: first thought Khaos is just LHF, now wants to vote the slot
Khaos: "i am not sure if gob is scum"

Yeah i think this trio sounds like atleast 2/3 are scum.

[Sleepy Dragon]

The last line was going to be an unnecessarily inflammatory comment about sd’s reads if town, but I decided against it. Apparently I didn’t delete it all the way.

I don't think you have any right to criticize my reads when these were your reads yesterday at EoD (as far as I can tell, maybe I dropped into PoE after this post):

Celebloki
Sleepy Dragon
Doctor Drew
Titus
Gamma Emerald

KittyTacky
Chell

Organized Khaos
Random Nurse*

Eiralox

Naerys

Elements

This is roughly where I'm at at the moment. I'd consider limming any of the bottom 5 to be desirable, but would want more engagement before settling on RN or Khaos.

I'll be looking like a real clown if Naerys is scum this game, but as she is not, I won't look like a clown.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Gob Khaos bingle

I agree, this is what I was leaning most of this day phase. Due to VCA and interactions.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Naerys, here's your scum case on Bingle:

So Bingle is a player in this game, except they aren't really. While me, Naerys, Chell, even Snivy to some degree, make some effort to solve the game / push it forward, it feels like all Bingle does is pop-in and refute things people say. Actually it's the same vibes I got from Black in Welcome to Feryland (Open 888 if you are wondering) - I was accusing her of various things, and then the way she defended herself just felt like she was very focused on being technically correct and refuting the accusation, but she didn't actually DO anything townie if that makes sense. So that's what I get from Bingle here - I claim he's coasting, so he makes a whole point of saying how he initiated a whole bunch of plays, but then you look at his ISO and like it's technically true but none of these plays were remotely townie, and he's still coasting right now. It's really hard to explain. I think the best explanation I can give is that Bingle is scum caught for the wrong reasons and is really annoyed with how bad my push on him is (just like Black was in Feryland).
Second thing, he actually IS coasting. DON'T read his ISO because that gives no context. Skim the last ten pages and just look for posts by Bingle. Skim the 20 pages before the end of the last day and look for posts by Bingle. They just feel like there's no effort to engage behind them. And I get that inactivity is NAI, but it's not the activity, it's the engagement.
Third, He's been pushing LHF this entire game. Elements? Check. Naerys? Yep. Eiralox? Funnily enough, yes he did. Snivy? Yes.
Fourth, I still think there is no way in hell town!Bingle actually believes that Eiralox is a good vote. HE SAID HIMSELF that Eiralox is doing exactly the same thing he was doing in a completed town game. And then he just CASUALLY decides that it was a good idea to end the day on EIralox when there were more than 3 days on the deadline. And puts them in E-1. CASUALLY.
Fifth, VCA.
Sixrh, I get the same tone from Veiled Committee Mafia where i was townreading Bingle and he was scum.

[Naerys]

Yea he does look rather bad.
Should we yeet him first then?

[Chell]

VOTE: gob

I don't super want to kill khaos anymore given I think Taly has the capacity to obv town

[Chell]

i have less overall confidence on the bingle slot but im not opposed to it

[Sleepy Dragon]

I agree Taly has the capacity to obvtown but she hadn't done it yet.

I'm waiting.

I'm willing to lim gob but I prefer Bingle

I think if both gob and Bingle are town then this is a game that town loses either way.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Okay let's do a consensus thingy

Everyone who's willing to vote Bingle right now please do HURT: Bingle
And Everybody who's willing to vote gob right now please do HURT: gob


(btw I just did mine this post)

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: Bingle

VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh well

HURT: Bingle, i guess

[Sleepy Dragon]

gob (2): Dragon, Chell
Bingle (2): Dragon, Snivy

[Sleepy Dragon]

@Naerys, Titus, Celebloki, Drew - i want your input.

[Naerys]

No idea how to do that colorful thingy but i say Bingle

[Doctor Drew]

@Naerys, Titus, Celebloki, Drew - i want your input.

I don't really want to vote either really.

[Naerys]

Why not?

[Sleepy Dragon]

No idea how to do that colorful thingy but i say Bingle

[ hurt ] Bingle [/hurt]

Without spaces.

@Naerys, Titus, Celebloki, Drew - i want your input.

I don't really want to vote either really.

Can you case Snivy please?