Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[Taly]

i really have to go vla ive too much on my plate i didnt expect

inclined to vote

naerys

[Taly]

fuck it

VOTE: Naerys

[Sleepy Dragon]

Taly why the fuck are you starting a new wagon less than 20 hours to deadline on someone who is not even on the table for a lim?

[Sleepy Dragon]

2.18

Votecount 2.18

camelCasedSnivy (3): Doctor Drew, gob,

Celebloki

Taly (2): Naerys, Titus
Bingle (2): Sleepy Dragon, camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Chell
Sleepy Dragon (1): Bingle

Not Voting (1): Taly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution or 5 to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-28 23:17:00).

This VC tells you all the viable wagons for today (except that maybe Drew is viabe but idrk).

[Taly]

gth thoughts

bingle's

frustration feels sincere and i dont like the build up, preflip associatives, or framing of the case by

sleepy

or

naerys

votehopping in particular

snivy

going after a slot with minimal traction feels a bit unsurvivalistic so im feeling less apt to E1 or hammer

gob

i still dont follow your assumption on how

elements/khaos

wagons were TvS and i feel that its a scumsiding narrative to correlate

elements

townflip with the other counter being scum

pedit

Taly why the fuck are you starting a new wagon less than 20 hours to deadline on someone who is not even on the table for a lim?

arent they? i could congeal here but im not feeling strong in current options, i also need more time with catching up\

pedit again

but im not comfortable with the wagons

[Taly]

sell me why

naerys

is town

[Taly]

chell

give me a concise explanation of your read on

gob

i have counterthoughts against them being scum

[Sleepy Dragon]

sell me why

naerys

is town

Naerys has never rolled scum on this site. If she is scum this game, then this would be her first scum game ever.

Do you actually think a first time scum player would randomly crumb Complex Mailman on Day 1 and then claim it for no reason at all? And then proceed to not use it?

This is completely aside from the fact that Naerys is in her town meta completely and utterly. Read her in Large Normal 244 and in Large Normal 245 and compare to here. I don't think a first time scum player fakes their own meta easily.

Also she's like very clearly unagenda'd in how she's playing.

I'll get to your other post in a bit (might be a couple of hours but hopefully not because there's a deadline).

[Naerys]

...Wtf
Okay lets face it, we dont deserve to win

[Sleepy Dragon]

Naerys wtf are you even talking about

[Celebloki]

Whoever the scumteam is they are great at causing EoD panic at deadline and paralyzing the town from completing any wagons.

[Sleepy Dragon]

True huh

Celebloki let's do this:

Can you vote Bingle

[Sleepy Dragon]

And then we actually get a wagon instead of paralysis

[Sleepy Dragon]

I was gonna say vote me off if Bingle is town but that's stupid, I don't want to auto lose if he ends up being town

[Naerys]

This is terrible town play. For second time we are near deadline, we are going in circles
AND COME ON STARTING A WAGON SO CLOSE TO THE DEADLINE WHAT KIND OF MOVE IS THAT

[Sleepy Dragon]

The best case I can make about Bingle right now is that he omgused me twice, and in a way that very much doesn't feel towny to me

Like I would expect town!him to accuse me of tunneling rather than OMGUS

But aside from that, it's just a shitty omgus and a shitty scumread on me. It does not feel like he's engaging in good faith. Even his defending of himself was not in good faith. Like he AtE'd about how I scumread him for being inactive when he had a shitty day at work, when A) I didn't scumread him for being inactive and B) I had NO WAY to know he had a shitty day at work (this is not now but some time earlier).

Pedit

: Naerys what you should be doing right now is convincing people to join the wagon you are on.

[Sleepy Dragon]

guys there's 8 hours to deadline please consolidate.

[Sleepy Dragon]

gth thoughts

bingle's

frustration feels sincere and i dont like the build up, preflip associatives, or framing of the case by

sleepy

or

naerys

votehopping in particular

Disagree that the frustration feels sincere
It feels like scum frustration if anything

What preflips did I do?

Also this might be a good time to say that I don't think Drew is scum with Bingle actually, I don't think scum!Drew would blatantly sheep his own scum partner with horrible reasoning like that.

snivy

going after a slot with minimal traction feels a bit unsurvivalistic so im feeling less apt to E1 or hammer

True but I have seen him do that as scum IIRC.

gob

i still dont follow your assumption on how

elements/khaos

wagons were TvS and i feel that its a scumsiding narrative to correlate

elements

townflip with the other counter being scum

This I agree with, and I think gob might be scum but I am not even close to sure about it tbh. Though I am not close to sure about anyone at this stage except Naerys and Titus being town.

pedit

Taly why the fuck are you starting a new wagon less than 20 hours to deadline on someone who is not even on the table for a lim?

arent they? i could congeal here but im not feeling strong in current options, i also need more time with catching up\

Not really, I think the only people remotely interested in a Naerys wagon are like Bingle and gob?

pedit again

but im not comfortable with the wagons

How good is your read accuracy? Because I am more than 90% confident that both Titus and Naerys are town, and basically willing to lim anyone outside of them/me/the IC. And I do have meta on both.

[Sleepy Dragon]

Look I'm not saying I'm sure Bingle is scum. I'm saying I am sure he is a better lim than me, Naerys or Titus and I also think he is a better lim than Chell and Taly currently.


This is @everyone, not at Taly in particular.

[Sleepy Dragon]

unofficial vc

Bingle (3): Sleepy Dragon, camelCasedSnivy, Naerys
camelCasedSnivy (2): gob,

Celebloki

Sleepy Dragon (2): Bingle, Doctor Drew
Taly (1): Titus
gob (1): Chell

Not Voting (1): Taly

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution or 5 to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-28 23:17:00).

[Sleepy Dragon]

Let's consolidate please.

[Sleepy Dragon]

I'm willing to consolidate on Snivy if needed.

[Naerys]

I wish i was better at convincing people.
The thing i noticed is that while Bingle seems to have some well written town reads, but i feel like he kind of didnt develop his SR since like his post 1051
Well, except when he SR Dragon, but thats reaction to being pushed by Dragon.
Bingle´s SR in 3272 kinda feels forced and half- baked.

Please, we need to consolidate.

[biancospino]

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