open 894: near vanilla (game over)

[Dannflor]

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[Dannflor]

I would appreciate it if people who think I am likely to be town would also vote kurtapika

we haven't had an actual wagon of more than like 3 votes take off and I think kurtapika is someone who has a very decent chance of flipping red

[Bellaphant]

They give me super mixed vibes? Their beginning posts were quite bad, I agreed with some of the middle, specifically about aisa, and then the lurker vote was horrible.

[Dannflor]

The lack of engagement with 13 in general felt strange. Aisa I feel the most uneasy about, part in due to that and the other in that her posts scan as either opportunistic or overly middleman to me (I don't see anything 'interesting' about the reaction mentioned in 43, for instance, it and her overall vibe feels like TMI attempting to consistently stay within uncertain grounds). Given her apparent overwhelming townread, I grant that this might be a case of my just being unfamiliar with her meta, as most people have been making mention to it in reference to reading her.

I think it is overly appeasing to back off of the Aisa uneasiness in this way

[T3]

t3 are you caught up?

Not at all. I just saw a notification and responded to Nono.

[Dannflor]

oh sad

[Aisa]

Bella's posts make me think "oooh, town!" until I get to another one where she talks about me

tbf I don't recall her as town ever having a read on me that wasn't conflicted

[Dannflor]

Bella's posts make me think "oooh, town!" until I get to another one where she talks about me

tbf I don't recall her as town ever having a read on me that wasn't conflicted

I don't really understand

are you expecting her to read you differently as town?

[Aisa]

Sorry, no, I'm saying that she's had similar reads on me as town in the past

What I dislike is that she seems to agree with kurtapika about this:

Aisa I feel the most uneasy about, part in due to that and the other in that her posts scan as either opportunistic or overly middleman to me (I don't see anything 'interesting' about the reaction mentioned in 43, for instance, it and her overall vibe feels like TMI attempting to consistently stay within uncertain grounds). Given her apparent overwhelming townread, I grant that this might be a case of my just being unfamiliar with her meta, as most people have been making mention to it in reference to reading her.

In my opinion this is not a good take, of course I'm biased

[Dannflor]

do you think she's more likely to be scum for that take or just wrong town

[Aisa]

Urgh
I think she's slightly more likely to be scum but urgh

[Bellaphant]

I said I didn't like the sheepiness of your vote the most, talk to me about that?

[Bellaphant]

It's the middleman bit that I vibe with of that quote, not the rest: I do feel you've been a bit vanilla with your takes

[Afrayed Knott]

I would appreciate it if people who think I am likely to be town would also vote kurtapika

we haven't had an actual wagon of more than like 3 votes take off and I think kurtapika is someone who has a very decent chance of flipping red

Not sure on this to be frank. I was liking their recent posts, But I'm more centred on exploring Black as a choice.

I will try to explain.

I was reading Black's earlier posts and I just got feeling I have seen this before. You will probably recall the game I am talking about, as you replaced her. The slot was scum and this is the game I referred to as your capable and very skilled attempt to confuse town and mislead them during the closing play of the game which nearly paid off but fortunately for town it didn't, the game was Open 888. (viewtopic.php?t=91754) That is why I asked the question in 325 . The posts she makes in that game and their content are very similar to her play in early in this game.

Then Bella's response and your response to that question, pretty much have started to confirm this thought in my mind. I know you both don't fully commit to saying she is scum, but your replies do push my thought that way. Am I right? I am beginning to feel I am, and would say it maybe worth a go.

VOTE: Black

[Dannflor]

I'm okay with a black wagon

[Aisa]

I said I didn't like the sheepiness of your vote the most, talk to me about that?

Where did you say that? I can't find it in your ISO

Why shouldn't I sheep a case if I see it and I like it? I literally just don't have any better ideas right now. Maybe I will have better ideas after I've had a little time to stew.

I suppose that from the perspective of someone who is trying to read me it's hard to differentiate "sheeping" from "using sheeping as an excuse". What do you think is a better vote than T3? If it helps I'm prepared to either switch to that or explain why I don't want to switch.

It's the middleman bit that I vibe with of that quote, not the rest: I do feel you've been a bit vanilla with your takes

So, I'm not sure if the issue is that I'm too on the fence about everything, if the reads I have are too vanilla, or both

To be clear, here is my current readslist:
{Jupiter, Projectry}
{Afrayed}
{everyone else}

If that's close to what you were thinking, then yeah, I suppose it's a fairly vanilla readslist, but I don't have any confidence in any other reads.

Is the issue that I'm being too noncommittal? Well, I'm using my vote. T3 is a vote I stand behind even though it's a sheep.

[Bellaphant]

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I guess it felt like it came out of nowhere: even in this post it feels noncommittal - it's someone else's case, but it's fine, but also you are commited to standing behind it...

I just remember you taking more stances than this.

[Bellaphant]

I don't like sr-ing you for something that feels like a state of mind I could/have easily been in day one, but :s

[shaddowez]

Catching up, going to try and do a few ISOs as well. I know I had a few quoted posts too, so will look for them and address them if needed.

[Titus]

sorry for the vague and unhelpful answer

Town

[shaddowez]

never did i express a scumread on t3 in the posts they're claiming i do

Where do I say you expressed a scumread? In 119 I mention that it feels like you found a reason to vote him, but part of your SR on me is based on explicit wording that didn't happen.

[shaddowez]

I'm not saying don't vote her Jupiter but of your two scum reads I view shaddowez less favorably personally

You can be wrong in two consecutive games, it's fine

[Dannflor]

I'm kinda town reading you now shaddowez

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