Mini Normal 2319: Flavorless Hell | Day 5

[Celebloki]

well we're off to a great start.

[Altaria]

VOTE: Umlaut

in light of the gob flip i obviously don't think scum was pushing him now. i'll probably be a huge target today but i know i'm town, so i want to vote for the other person that tried to stop the gob lim from happening

i think it's possible someone could have been bussing and if so it's probably just geraintm, but i wanted to go umlaut yesterday and i want to even more now

i feel really good about drew and hu tao. if gob's partner was off his wagon and it isn't umlaut then my gut tells me it could be kyouko since she tried really hard to case me when the gob thing was happening

[Aliana]

Maybe we get a perfect town win.
@Dragon - who was jailed?

[Altaria]

Maybe we get a perfect town win.
@Dragon - who was jailed?

i think we just yeet the jailed target but scum could have no killed to set that up. we can worry about that D3 though

[Umlaut]

It's my anniversary today, what a great present!

I'll engage with this game tomorrow but I pretty much agree that "launch the jailed player" is the obvious plan.

[gob]

It's my anniversary today, what a great present!

I'll engage with this game tomorrow but I pretty much agree that "launch the jailed player" is the obvious plan.

Congrats!

[T3]

Please do not post, you are dead.

[Aliana]

Please do not post, you are dead.

This is a mistake. I hardclaim reviver and I resurrected the dead mafia goon last night.

[Celebloki]

I knew it!

[Altaria]

I may or may not have found a super secret gob towntell that I'll be keeping hidden for now, hard to say because he's like always scum on this site (unlucky) but what I've found is generally present in his scumgame and not present in his towngame.

So maybe it's more of a scumtell but the point is it's not present here and I like gob for town here

so what was this about?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

[Altaria]

Sigh, I got my wires crossed and thought 372 was you and not Kyouko.

So my question is actually for

@Kyouko

, why don't you think Drew is a possibility today? I know I'm the only one voting him right this second but he had a pretty sizeable wagon going, why not push for what you want with three days still on the clock?

Well I've made my case on Drew and while it was convincing for some (you, maybe one other), I seem to recall other people acknowledging it and disagreeing with the conclusion, calling it more NAI than scum-indicative. Drew's wagon reached an apex of 4 (e-2) and when geraintm voted Dragon, bringing the wagons to a tie, I think is where the momentum stopped. I think if geraintm had voted the largest wagon on Drew and E-1ed him this day might have gone differently. Maybe that wasn't accidental by geraintm. Then we got an unvote from Dragon and the wagon at that point I think was definitely dead when it lost the vote from the player it was counter to. It doesn't help to have Celebloki not contributing at this point, but iirc one of the few things he did comment on is that he gets deja vu vibes from Drew vs Dragon from when Drew was Town and Dragon was scum. So at one point 8/10 players were voting for one of Drew/Dragon and people seemed firmly in one camp or the other. One of the two not voting those 2 was leaning more toward Dragon if push came to shove I think. So yeah, I don't think Drew is happening toDay.

I'm not pushing more for it now because I would just be repeating the same arguments that I've already made and I'm pretty sure everyone has read them and that's how we got the wagons to 4-4 in the first place. I don't think continuing to push Drew toDay will result in his flip so I'll focus my efforts elsewhere for toDay and we will have associatives to work with toMorrow.

3 sentences or less my friend.

this is funny because gob did this exact same thing to his scum buddy Crescent in the game i read of his

maybe it's just kyouko here

[Altaria]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

???

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I may or may not have found a super secret gob towntell that I'll be keeping hidden for now, hard to say because he's like always scum on this site (unlucky) but what I've found is generally present in his scumgame and not present in his towngame.

So maybe it's more of a scumtell but the point is it's not present here and I like gob for town here

so what was this about?

It's either a scumtell or NAI, more likely NAI

[Altaria]

I may or may not have found a super secret gob towntell that I'll be keeping hidden for now, hard to say because he's like always scum on this site (unlucky) but what I've found is generally present in his scumgame and not present in his towngame.

So maybe it's more of a scumtell but the point is it's not present here and I like gob for town here

so what was this about?

It's either a scumtell or NAI, more likely NAI

can you tell us what it was

[Aliana]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

???

There's a significant chance that Dragon was the NK target himself, being the only claimed PR.

[Altaria]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

???

There's a significant chance that Dragon was the NK target himself, being the only claimed PR.

uhh i really would have liked that to come from her mouth but alrighty

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

???

He's a claimed JK. Scum shoots him if he's town, and he cant target himself. Therefore.he probably targeted the killer and stopped them from killing

[geraintm]

Well, that was awesome

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I may or may not have found a super secret gob towntell that I'll be keeping hidden for now, hard to say because he's like always scum on this site (unlucky) but what I've found is generally present in his scumgame and not present in his towngame.

So maybe it's more of a scumtell but the point is it's not present here and I like gob for town here

so what was this about?

It's either a scumtell or NAI, more likely NAI

can you tell us what it was

No, I still want to keep it to myself in case it's a scumtell.

[Aliana]

Hmm... it does feel like Dragon probably stopped the killer rather than protected the target

???

There's a significant chance that Dragon was the NK target himself, being the only claimed PR.

uhh i really would have liked that to come from her mouth but alrighty

Sorry if I messed up what you were trying to do, I couldn't imagine what other reason there'd be though.

[Altaria]

ok

[geraintm]

VOTE: Umlaut


i think it's possible someone could have been bussing and if so it's probably just geraintm, but i wanted to go umlaut yesterday and i want to even more now

You think I bussed my partner from out of nowhere, when I could have let them claim to try and save themselves?

[Altaria]

VOTE: Umlaut


i think it's possible someone could have been bussing and if so it's probably just geraintm, but i wanted to go umlaut yesterday and i want to even more now

You think I bussed my partner from out of nowhere, when I could have let them claim to try and save themselves?

no. i think it's either umlaut or kyouko

but if scum did bus then i think your hammer doesn't really clear you. drew had declared intent anyway. gob was a gonner

[Altaria]

i think umlaut and kyouko have the worst interactions with gob

aliana was a little hesitant to go there but eventually put it to e-1

hu tao and drew are pretty much locktown fmpov. i haven't looked into celebloki's interactions with gob yet but i still think he's town

we should trust dragon for as long as we can but i don't like how gob tried to save him with his backwards reasoning. reminds me somewhat of the last game he played where he tried to stop a gamma lim from happening

think my PoE is {umlaut, kyouko, aliana} and probably in that order

let's see what dragon has to say