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[Elements]

Bloop

[Black]

I like kyouko so I'd rather not vote her out over the miller claim

[Gamma Emerald]

Does anyone else think it's scum indicating when someone isn't voting?

I’ve seen that suggested but never exactly understood the logic of it

[TimmerRC]

The aim of 46 was to get Keyleth to vote someone
The quote was relevant
The "quote is not relevant" was to distance from the quoted joke so Keyleth could continue with it if desired
I was implying I was of the opinion that people nit voting is scummy
I do not actually think people not voting is scummy

Hopefully this clears up the post enough that we can move on from an unhelpful discussion about why my brain does things

I sorta get it but just to be clear, and to put this to bed. If people not voting during RVS is NOT a scummy thing to you, why did you want to try to get Keyleth to vote someone?

[Elements]

I sorta get it but just to be clear, and to put this to bed. If people not voting during RVS is NOT a scummy thing to you, why did you want to try to get Keyleth to vote someone?

People not voting in RVS is nai
People's votes can be ai
I like wagons on day 1

[Naerys]

From what I gathered, Miller claims are pretty controversial. Scum could claim this early in order to deter any potential investigative roles from targeting them, so people generally aren't a big fan of these claims

indeed, but if its true, its better to claim it asap
In my opinion, claiming miller this early feels towny. Of course, scum could be bold enough to try to pull this. But i find it unlikely. Most scum i have played against did not like much attention at D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

VT

I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.

It's definitely weird, I was confused seeing it too
My guess is the claim is purely out of self-preservation
Idk why else Hu Tao will claim VT in the opening

I think it’s a sort of knee-jerk response to the miller claims, me and Hu Tao were both in a game centered around millers recently

[Gamma Emerald]

It does help when trying to do VCA off the mod ISO alone. Otherwise if you want to be thorough sometimes you need to make your own intermediary ones to see what happened in between VCs if they were especially far apart

[Gamma Emerald]

It's been awhile, remind me why voting millers is the best option?

Slight chance mafia fakeclaims miller
They're guilty if investigated
If telling the truth, miller
If lying, mafia

I’m less inclined to vote a miller specifically because there’s more than one miller claim, it suggests that an investigative exists that can clear millers imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

I sorta get it but just to be clear, and to put this to bed. If people not voting during RVS is NOT a scummy thing to you, why did you want to try to get Keyleth to vote someone?

People not voting in RVS is nai
People's votes can be ai
I like wagons on day 1

This makes sense

[Elements]

ping

Got any vibe reads so far?

[TimmerRC]

ping

Got any vibe reads so far?

Did I actually say ping at some point,lol?

Not really... I feel like you handled that dissection of your posts quite well... I found Hu Tao's VT claim wonky but that's null until they respond about it. I'm terrible at day 1 so that's what I've got so far.

[KawaiiKame]

I'm not sure. Dunn's claim felt like a joke with it being the first post of the game. Kyouko's feels more real but I'm not familiar enough with her to tell if it's coming from scum

I feel Duun's claim is genuine, millers often claim miller in their opening posts. Duun's miller claim feels straight up, unlikely that mafia plays this directly. Kyouko feels real/potentially opportunistic, shielding herself behind the initial miller claim if she is mafia

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

[Dunnstral]

Gamma and Black probably town

Gamma has done what so far?

Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?

Black had posted more.

Gamma and Black probably town

Gamma has done what so far?

It's a meta read based partly on mini open 893

Can you explain it?

Anyone want to start a wagon?

VOTE: Duunstral
Voting the miller

If Dunn is a neighbour then I could see the miller claim coming from a traitor
But for now I think Dunn's town

This speculation is really random and it's hard to imagine you think any of this is likely

[Elements]

This speculation is really random and it's hard to imagine you think any of this is likely

It's not that random, but I don't think it's likely.
It popped into my head so i said it
I also got 2 of Kyouko's posts in the wrong order which has change my thoughts on things

[Dunnstral]

Gamma and Black probably town

Gamma has done what so far?

There a reason you singled me out?

Same reason I gave when the first 3 people questioned me.

[Elements]

Can you explain it?

I'll try remember to get back to you when I'm not mobile posting

[Black]

Timmer feels town so far

The "I'm terrible at D1" feels more like a townie trying to explain why he doesn't have many reads as opposed to Mafia worried about their optics

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma and Black probably town

Gamma has done what so far?

There a reason you singled me out?

Same reason I gave when the first 3 people questioned me.

Okay

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not sure. Dunn's claim felt like a joke with it being the first post of the game. Kyouko's feels more real but I'm not familiar enough with her to tell if it's coming from scum

I feel Duun's claim is genuine, millers often claim miller in their opening posts. Duun's miller claim feels straight up, unlikely that mafia plays this directly. Kyouko feels real/potentially opportunistic, shielding herself behind the initial miller claim if she is mafia

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

This feels remarkably convoluted

[Dunnstral]

It seems more believable than bringing up neighbors and traitors to me.

[Celebloki]

Elements is a champion baffler for sure.

I'm not inclined to vote for the millers. I think I agree with Gamma's take.

[Celebloki]

I'm not sure. Dunn's claim felt like a joke with it being the first post of the game. Kyouko's feels more real but I'm not familiar enough with her to tell if it's coming from scum

I feel Duun's claim is genuine, millers often claim miller in their opening posts. Duun's miller claim feels straight up, unlikely that mafia plays this directly. Kyouko feels real/potentially opportunistic, shielding herself behind the initial miller claim if she is mafia

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Kyouko claimed miller in her opening post too, it seems unfair to say her claim is illegitimate just because Dunn got to the game first. Not everyone can have the opening post of a game.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Think Elements in 46

(or 45, fucking 0 index arrays on post number but 1 indexed in quote tags for some reason? Thanks BBCode)

is saying the inner quote in 28 has no relevance so it was snipped. Then asking does anyone else think it's scum-indicative when someone isn't voting

Elements doesn't assert it's scum-indicative, just asks

"does anyone else think"
Asking if anyone else thinks something implies they also think the same thing, she's asking if anyone else shares her thoughts
Least that's how I'm interpreting the question

Oh yeah that should be obvious, I misread the question

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems more believable than bringing up neighbors and traitors to me.

That’s kinda fair but Elements is quirky like that