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[Elements]

Bloop

[Black]

VOTE: Kyouko

[Elements]

Look if I'm gonna be the only one talking today I'll just post a big wall post. I remember getting warned here for posting genuine single liners before.

I find the way you're doing it atm significantly easier to read than a wall post

[Elements]

VOTE: Kyouko

[Guillotina]

I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.

Hu, if you thought the above, can you clarify why you quoted and vote Naerys here?

For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.

VOTE: Naerys

[Guillotina]

I've also been in a lot of games that Random Nurse was in a the start, my RVS vote on him is basically because I knew he wasn't going to show.

VOTE: Celebloki

Well now I went and got egg all over my face. I will say I am genuinely excited to actually get to play a game with RN. I definitely was too snarky in that post, but I was just frustrated that it felt like this was another game he was going to replace out of.

Is that what you thought, that Kyo voted for the snark?

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Celebloki

[Guillotina]

Well most of the players in this game

are

town...

No way!

[Guillotina]

It's been awhile, remind me why voting millers is the best option?

Slight chance mafia fakeclaims miller
They're guilty if investigated
If telling the truth, miller
If lying, mafia

Disagree, we get rid of them depending on results not on paranoia.

And by results I mean on their performance towards catching scum, not mechanical.

How do you deal with this when the people who know the wolves are the wolves themselves? Like, do you have a certain process? If you don't want to answer this you don't have to.

You gotta consider that scum are the minority in games and they'd rather not lose a teammate if they can avoid it.
There are ways scum push their teammates to distance vs how scum push townies to get rid of them.
I look out for those ways, i measure the genuineness of them. I put myself in their shoes and try to see if it comes from a town's perspective considering the timing, situation and circumstances at the time and of course, the micro tells.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.6

KawaiiKame

(E-7): Gamma Emerald, Andresvmb

ssbm_Kyouko

(E-7):

Guillotina

, Black, Elements

Celebloki

(E-7): ssbm_Kyouko, Guillotina

Elements

(E-8): Random Nurse

Random Nurse

(E-8): Celebloki

davesaz

(E-8): Naerys

Black

(E-8): TimmerRC

Naerys

(E-8): Hu Tao

Gamma Emerald

(E-9):

Keyleth

(E-9):

Guillotina

(E-9):

Nono

(E-9):

Dunnstral

(E-9):

Hu Tao

(E-9):

MerelBlackbird

(E-9):

TimmerRC

(E-9):

Andresvmb

(E-9):

Not Voting

: KawaiiKame,davesaz,
With 17 alive it takes 9 to eject a player from the Game.

Deadline is (expired on 2023-12-07 23:00:00).

Mod Notes: Black is V/LA until Monday, December 4th.

[Guillotina]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

[Guillotina]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

Potential Pairings

Kyouko/Gamma
Naerys/Hu

[Guillotina]

Hopefully my people of interest engage with my posts about them when i comeback, until then. Sayonara

[Jingle]

What are the rules for posting multiple times in a row here?

The only rules about multi posting are the sitewide anti spam ones.

[Gamma Emerald]

When I saw Dunn had already claimed Miller I was briefly inclined not to claim even though before opening the daystart PM I was planning to claim.

I decided against that though, I dont see how hiding it does any good. If it's a traitor game with a Mafia Cop it helps them find the traitor but also makes town wary of a traitor early.

If it's not a traitor game, town cops dont waste investigations and I'll be judged on my day play and not on my claim. I'm more than fine with that outcome.

What is a traitor? Like a mafia that kills mafia?

Mafia that doesn't know mafia and Mafia don't know

Traitors know the main team in normals

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Kyouko

VOTE: Kyouko

Why did you 2 vote Kyouko?

[Elements]

VOTE: Kyouko

VOTE: Kyouko

Why did you 2 vote Kyouko?

Is wagon

[Black]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

Why do you have mixed feelings about kyouko?

VOTE: Kyouko

VOTE: Kyouko

Why did you 2 vote Kyouko?

I think she could be scum and I wanted a wagon

Not really liking Guillotina's unvote

[Guillotina]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

Why do you have mixed feelings about kyouko?

VOTE: Kyouko

VOTE: Kyouko

Why did you 2 vote Kyouko?

I think she could be scum and I wanted a wagon

Not really liking Guillotina's unvote

Because I liked Kyuoko's reaction to Celebloki and I didn't unvote, I voted Celebloki.

[Guillotina]

Do you have a problem with me voting Celebloki? Black?

[Gamma Emerald]

bleagh

[TimmerRC]

VT

I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.

How long have you played Mafia?

Off and on for over 10 years, mostly off lately.

[Guillotina]

VT

I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.

How long have you played Mafia?

Off and on for over 10 years, mostly off lately.

Why pay mind to a VT claim during RvS with 10 years on?

[Gamma Emerald]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

What makes you think I’m scum individually? You said I might be scum with Kyouko for a post bug she’s in “mixed feelings”

[Keyleth]

Hrm, maybe I'm not seeing it for Kyouko but that could just be the way I play. I'll sit here and let people do their thing though the threadstate seems healthy so I'm not gonna get in yalls way.