Large Normal 246: Game Over

[Broccoli Quest 2]

@Nurse are you voting Elly because she didn't answer why she liked Gamma early?

@Elly could you answer Nurse so he stops voting you?

[Broccoli Quest 2]

@Nurse are you voting Elly because she didn't answer why she liked Gamma early?

@Elly could you answer Nurse so he stops voting you?


I'm rusty

[Elements]

We could get an actual wagon going if join us though

I mean, if you, me and Gamma all vote Guillo we can also have an actual wagon. I don't have a read on Cele. I have a conflicted read on Guillo. Sounds like the better option.

VOTE: Guillo

I can VOTE: Guillo

[Elements]

I don't remember what or when Nurse asked me

[Naerys]

Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.

RN gives towny vibes

[Broccoli Quest 2]

I don't remember what or when Nurse asked me

Well:

Gamma and Black probably town

Gamma has done what so far?

Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?

I like this
You can be town too, for now

...

...I don't recall you answering Dave's question.

VOTE: Elements

I *think* this is why Nurse is voting you, even though later he claimed it was aimed at dunn (that does make sense when Dave asked Dunn and not you), so I am actually not sure what's the rationale of voting you here.

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Wait did two distinct people get confused with Dunn this game?

I guess this means Nurse isn't scum with Dunn or Elements, and Elements isn't scum with Dunn or Dave. Wow! Me Me Big Brain.

Plot twist: scum team is exactly dunn/dave/elements/nurse

[Celebloki]

Kinda, Large 245 is probably the only one I can technically say we did.

...were you Scum in that one?

I was not.

[Celebloki]

Who but scum even thinks "I know this guy isnt going to show so I'll vote him in RVS"

If you're doing this as town you can just not vote. This is scum trying to fit in during RVS and now that we're out of it he felt comfortable enough to admit it.

He slipped imo

I always have a reason for a vote, even in RVS. It can sometimes be just because I think their name is silly, because of a previous game with that person, or any other random reason. Are you saying all townies always truly randomly vote in RVS? You had no reason to vote Nono or guillotina at the start?

[Naerys]

VOTE: Guillotina

I think there's partner equity in Guillotina/kyouko

Guillotina said she would support a kyouko wagon but jumped off less than 30 minutes later, right after Elements and I joined. I don't think the Celebloki vote was a very good reason to suddenly end their support and having Celebloki at the bottom of their preliminary reads in 310 feels like a performative justification for voting there rather than an actual read

In both 293 and 377 they made sure to include that they weren't voting for the same reason as the person they were sheeping which feels like scum that might be trying to flaunt that their read is unique and different

I think the questions from Guillotina are like...ok, but nothing scum couldn't come up with in an attempt to seem townie, and I think the interpretation in 374 is really odd and it just feels like unnecessary shade towards Timmer

I have never played with Guillotina and so they are rather difficult to get a grasp on. It could be just a playstyle thing, it could be a scum move. When i am trying to think like scum, i ask myself what could be their motivation. For example - scum!timmer could be trying to go for what he feels like easier wagon which wouldnt attract much attention.
Or scum!Guillotina is trying to sow some discord between townies. Could be Hu Tao their buddy? Cant rule it out

Also it could be just being bad at expressing things.( A stuff i am personally bad at.)
It could be also town!Timmer being paranoid of Hu Tao and town!Guillotina being paranoid of Timmer. Did Gullotina say what they think wbout Hu Tao? I need to look that up.

[Naerys]

From Guillotina ISO i have got a feeling like they are doing a lot of posts but i dont get much of solving vibe from them.

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

Could you elaborate a bit? Reasons for your TR, reasons for your SR? It feels like you cooked up something without much thinking.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Who but scum even thinks "I know this guy isnt going to show so I'll vote him in RVS"

If you're doing this as town you can just not vote. This is scum trying to fit in during RVS and now that we're out of it he felt comfortable enough to admit it.

He slipped imo

I always have a reason for a vote, even in RVS. It can sometimes be just because I think their name is silly, because of a previous game with that person, or any other random reason. Are you saying all townies always truly randomly vote in RVS? You had no reason to vote Nono or guillotina at the start?

Nono, no. No reason I mean.

Guillotina, yes. For that one time he was scum (that I found on D1 who then turned it around on me and got me mislimmed D1) in that one game (Chrono Trigger Chronicles: The Rise of Yakra).

I don't think townies truly "randomly" vote, no. For me I was just looking through the player list and the name caught my eye so I voted nono. Then I stopped looking at the playerlist and got back to reading the game. Later on I looked at the full playerlist and recognized Guillotina and I did have a reason for that vote.

I dont think the problem is that your vote wasnt random, I dont think town is always going to open up a random number generator and pick someone. The reason you had I think is scum-indicative. If you think RN isn't going to join the game, why vote there (rhetorical)? You'll never get a reaction that way and I think as town (the royal) you would want to avoid that kind of vote that does nothing when they could make a different one that might produce something.

That's why I moved my vote from Nono to Guillotina, because with Nono it was just a vote for whomever, not that likely to get attention, but I did get Guillotina's attention when he started reading

[davesaz]

I have what I hope is only a head cold. I may not be as energetic as usual. The night-time so you can rest medicine made me wired instead of sleepy so I feel like I've been in a centrifuge for hours.

I have a soft spot for effort. Those are some good observations on Guillotina. I think my kneejerk townlean on that slot may not be warranted.

[Celebloki]

I guess I just don’t ever suspect to get a response from an RVS vote, most people seem to ignore them or make a jokey OMGUS vote.

[Celebloki]

I get more out of who piles on after the RVS vote and if I feel they were made opportunistically. I usually find whatever flimsy reason to vote someone in the list to just make my “Hi, I’m here. Here’s an RVS vote”. Then I usually wait for more people to post and something else to latch onto.

[Keyleth]

I think Broccoli's entrance into the thread felt very nice. I like it personally. Trying to figure out why people are wolfreading Celeb if people could give me a hand with that it'd be lovely. The person that has the lowest points on my chart seems to be TR so it is just likely I am incorrect. The pace of this game is somehow both casual in dialect and yet really hard to process.

[Guillotina]

My preliminary reads:

Town

Black
Kawaii

Mixed Feelings

Kyouko

Scum

Naerys
Hu
Gamma
Celebloki

Potential Pairings

Kyouko/Gamma
Naerys/Hu

I can't wait to see the reason I'm paired with my scumread

Have you heard of distancing?

Yes but what specifically makes us a pair? What are the reasons.

I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.

Hu, if you thought the above, can you clarify why you quoted and vote Naerys here?

For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.

VOTE: Naerys

Yes it has more to do that I think the post seems fake to me, rather than the content. But good catch.

This has led me to have that line of thought. To me it is an inconsistency, cause both of you had a similar read but you sussed them for it.

[Guillotina]

Who but scum even thinks "I know this guy isnt going to show so I'll vote him in RVS"

If you're doing this as town you can just not vote. This is scum trying to fit in during RVS and now that we're out of it he felt comfortable enough to admit it.

He slipped imo

Ok def not the same reason I didn't like that post but I can see it too.

[Gamma Emerald]

We could get an actual wagon going if join us though

I mean, if you, me and Gamma all vote Guillo we can also have an actual wagon. I don't have a read on Cele. I have a conflicted read on Guillo. Sounds like the better option.

VOTE: Guillo

Tf makes you think I’d want a Guillo wagon? I’ve asked some questions of him but I do that with townreads a lot.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kinda, Large 245 is probably the only one I can technically say we did.

...were you Scum in that one?

I was not.

RN was though, which led to a substantial amount of mental lag before I reached my final conclusion on his # of scum question

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hi I replaced someone

I'm also sick but forgot to ask to be taken off the replacements list, so uhhh don't expect more than gut reads for a few days

[Guillotina]

Brocoli's entrance screamed "Come, I want attention", which in my opinion is townie cause scum don't do that, they try to blend in.

[Guillotina]

We could get an actual wagon going if join us though

I mean, if you, me and Gamma all vote Guillo we can also have an actual wagon. I don't have a read on Cele. I have a conflicted read on Guillo. Sounds like the better option.

VOTE: Guillo

Anything I can do to help you clear out that conflict?

[Guillotina]

That's why I moved my vote from Nono to Guillotina, because with Nono it was just a vote for whomever, not that likely to get attention, but I did get Guillotina's attention when he started reading

Ok so?

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Celebloki