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[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yoink

[davesaz]

I'm asking why is there no help to pressure the slot into giving us more content? Why am I not getting support for that?

The concept is a fine one. Do you have background with Naerys to know what to expect? Any other slots who you think would benefit from more content, perhaps ones who are present more recently / reliably?

[Guillotina]

I'm asking why is there no help to pressure the slot into giving us more content? Why am I not getting support for that?

The concept is a fine one. Do you have background with Naerys to know what to expect? Any other slots who you think would benefit from more content, perhaps ones who are present more recently / reliably?

No background with Naerys, in fact no background with most people here except Gamma. I haven't played here in over a year.. well, I played a GIM game about a month ago but I was day vigged early day 1 so that does not count.

Naerys, the Cat person and Andres have been flying under the radar for me, they should post more content or we yeet/night vig them if we have that option.

[Dunnstral]

Guillo Bam and Aid

What's that?

Very glad you asked.

The Guillo BAM and AID technique is the process in which everyone has to earn my townread every day as opposed to secretly giving you a score high enough to towncore you for the rest of the game based on your performance on a specific day.


Pros: Keeps the game dynamic
Removes the possibility of scum buddying me once to ride on my favor forever.
It catches deepwolves.
Makes me unpredictable and mafia cant plan around it.

Cons: Very difficult to build a towncore this way.
Builds a level of distrust amongst the actual town as it could be seen as scum keeping the PoE wide instead of narrowing it down.

I also like this idea, I find I often town read someone sub-consciously too often on D1 and have had it backfire (been pocketed). Recently, I have found that I've needed to reset and throw out any town reads I had on subsequent days in case I was pocketed. At first I thought you were being a little bit LAMISTy, but for now I am content that you're coming from a town motivation. I might have to borrow and properly credit this strategy as well.


Conversely, this is also why I am now dubious of people that like to make town blocks on D1. Unless they are masons I just don't understand how anyone can fully trust anyone D1. I've been stung too many times that I only ever lean towards town on some people D1.

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@Gamma listen I really don't care who or what you vote. Not being in a block is not a threat. A block is a group of people who

trust

each other and are willing to cooperate, and then vote together. If there's no trust then there's no block, it's as simple as that.

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The operative word being trust. Can you really expect to gain actual trust on D1 outside of a Mason type situation? How can anyone reasonably, comfortably join a town block and say they trust the others in the town block? If someone on D1 says they trust others, I'd find that very suspicious.

I like this post

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Naerys

Do you have any valid reason or are you just sheeping Hu?

I'm just joining anything that might make it to e-2

Fair

[Hu Tao]

Playerlist:
Gamma Emerald
Celebloki
Naerys
Guillotina
Keyleth
TimmerRC
Elements

Posting this for myself to look up later. List of people I have suspicions on for one reason or another.

Towny

I try

[Hu Tao]

Playerlist:
Gamma Emerald
Celebloki
Naerys
Guillotina
Keyleth
TimmerRC
Elements

Posting this for myself to look up later. List of people I have suspicions on for one reason or another.

Towny

Really?

Oh no. You're catching onto me

[Hu Tao]

Anyway I think Black asked who would be a good wagon rn since she doesn't want Naerys. My answer is one of Kawaii/Hu Tao/CSF.

VOTE: Hu Tao

Why am I scum?

[Hu Tao]

Why Hu Tao?

I don't feel she's done anything townie, and while looking at Andres' ISO (He was originally a potential vote candidate), I found this which I agree with:

213 - I am not getting the vibes expressed by Hu Tao, which is why I have negative thoughts (I don’t believe the attack).

Is that the only reason? Sounds sus

[Hu Tao]

Broccoli you want Naerys right? What are your thoughts of me leading her wagon?

[Gamma Emerald]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?

[Gamma Emerald]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

Something something activity isn't AI

I'm asking why is there no help to pressure the slot into giving us more content? Why am I not getting support for that?

Do you think that would help? I don't based on what Naerys has posted thus far

[Guillotina]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

Something something activity isn't AI

I'm asking why is there no help to pressure the slot into giving us more content? Why am I not getting support for that?

Do you think that would help? I don't based on what Naerys has posted thus far

We will never know if we don't pile enough votes on them to see if they'd react to that?
Why don't you help me?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Naerys
I guess I can give this a shot, a part of my unwillingness was wanting to maintain pressure on Celeb but I think that’s run its course

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.13

Naerys

(E-5): Hu Tao, Elements, Guillotina, Gamma Emerald,

Celebloki

(E-8): TimmerRC,

KawaiiKame

(E-8): Andresvmb

Andresvmb

(E-8): Naerys

Broccoli Quest 2

(E-8): Black,

davesaz

(E-8): ssbm_Kyouko,

Dunnstral

(E-8): davesaz

Hu Tao

(E-8): Broccoli Quest 2,

ssbm_Kyouko

(E-9):

Guillotina

(E-9):

Keyleth

(E-9):

Elements

(E-9):

Random Nurse

(E-9):

Black

(E-9):

Gamma Emerald

(E-9):

Cat Scratch Fever

(E-9):

TimmerRC

(E-9):

Not Voting

: KawaiiKame, Celebloki, Random Nurse,

With 17 alive it takes 9 to eject a player from the Game.

Deadline is (expired on 2023-12-07 23:00:00).

Mod Notes: Elements is V/LA until Wednesday, December 6th.

[Black]

Yeah ok actually if it comes down to it today I'd put Naerys high in my POE after reading her ISO, but I'd prefer one of my own scumreads dave/celebloki. Naerys feels like she has a decent chance to be scum here, probably higher than Celebloki from an outside POV. I know people in general are hesitant to hard scumread or hard townread off of small things the way I SR Celebloki but it's like the same way I got my hard Elements TR in Open 893. I could just smell lazy town from a mile away when they tried to scumread Gamma for pretty low effort meta reasons (turned out they were right about Gamma though)

What is it that you dislike about Naerys's ISO?

[Hu Tao]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?

Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing much

[Naerys]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?

Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing much

Oh fk off already
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off

[davesaz]

You feel a lot different from this game where it turned out scum were leading a wagon on you.
Naerys + mod iso, day 3 is relevant

[Hu Tao]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?

Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing much

Oh fk off already
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off

So am I scum? Or am I town that's misguided?

[Naerys]

Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?

I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?

Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing much

Oh fk off already
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off

So am I scum? Or am I town that's misguided?

I am not sure, i only played with town!you and you seem to be a bit more active but i dont think its alignment thing
On the other side i dont think i have seen you pushing someone like this on d1 so you could be scum.
How would you describe scum!you?

[Hu Tao]

I think I'm the same as town and scum. I try to approach the game the same. Probably better to ask other people.

[Hu Tao]

Wait that game Dave just linked that you were in.. I was town and I pushed hard on someone day 1. Sus.

[davesaz]

pushed hard on someone day 1

Self evaluate: pushed in that game from a place that had reasoning, or just pushed? What do your reasons, if any, look like here?
The post you quoted on/near the initial vote was Naerys saying that she TRd me and the 2 millers.

Also don't remember if I asked this -- would being a first voter but basically doing nothing since until the last few hours really be "leading"? I don't know if that's the actual situation or not, other than to say I certainly don't remember seeing anything I'd call leadership.

[Hu Tao]

pushed hard on someone day 1

Self evaluate: pushed in that game from a place that had reasoning, or just pushed? What do your reasons, if any, look like here?
The post you quoted on/near the initial vote was Naerys saying that she TRd me and the 2 millers.

Also don't remember if I asked this -- would being a first voter but basically doing nothing since until the last few hours really be "leading"? I don't know if that's the actual situation or not, other than to say I certainly don't remember seeing anything I'd call leadership.

VOTE: Heipz

if it flips town, ill just blame Hu Tao.

I'm willing to take the blame if he's town. Don't think he is.

? I think this post in itself shows I pushed hard on someone day 1. And was the cause for the misvote..