Mini Normal 2319: Flavorless Hell | Day 5

[Celebloki]

I do tend to agree that it's likely not Dragon, on my POE list Dragon is the one in it that's least likely for me. I think my top 2 are Hu and Drew. I kind of had a similar thought as Black to Drew's 578 which is why I rebutted it at the time. The vibe I got was that maybe he thought he was the JK target and that he was caught. This is why I said later I was surprised Dragon said his target was Altaria. I was just waiting for Dragon to come in and say he had targeted Drew that night. Since our plan was to yeet that person I was ready to go.

It's obviously completely possible Drew targeted Altaria for the NK and was saved by Dragon.

Why do you think it could be Hu Tao here?

It's was based purely off interaction with gob early D1. He asks Kyouko what the deal was with her RVS vote on Hu Tao, then he OMGUSs Hu Tao when she votes him. This felt theatery to me. Then gob was against her wagon later on. Re-reading the ISO of both of them though I am not sure this morning anymore though. gob could have just been distancing if a town!Hu Tao gt mis-limmed. Hu Tao did jump over to the gob flash wagon after me when Dragon claimed D1 though. I'm starting to question scum!Hu Tao for the same reason I tend to TR geraintm, would she go along with getting rid of her scum buddy D1... I think I'm talking myself out of this SR.

[Celebloki]

Wow, I can't believe that pagetop sat un-grabbed that long.

[Black]

Hmm. Hu Tao did bus their scum buddy in Mini Normal 1094 that just ended, so it's possible

[Black]

It was on D1 too

[Black]

I guess it could be Hu Tao here but I'm not as confident about that as I am Drew

I think I'd like to flip Drew --> big gap --> Alianna --> maybe Hu? In that order

[Celebloki]

Yeah, I think my FoS, if that is even a term anymore, is on Drew right now. I want to wait and see what Dragon may or may not say today regarding his target last night if he had one. I think for today I wouldn't want a lim in geraintm/Black/Kyouko/Dragon. I am townreading Aliana so I don't really want to go there for a lim either. I prefer Drew over Hu Tao for today.

[Black]

*Dragon waiting room*

[Hu Tao]

Hmm. Hu Tao did bus their scum buddy in Mini Normal 1094 that just ended, so it's possible

I would bus, but not bring my partners name out of no where and say quick wagon it. Either way. We wait for dragon.

[Hu Tao]

I think there is 0% chance drew is scum here. And will fight for him not to be voted out BTW.

[Black]

I think there is 0% chance drew is scum here. And will fight for him not to be voted out BTW.

Why do you keep saying reads and not explaining them. It's pretty annoying ngl

[Black]

I asked you yesterday why you townread Drew and you just ignored it and here you are again

[Black]

I'm willing to admit I could be wrong about Drew but if you feel this strongly about him then I don't understand not explaining your read

[Hu Tao]

How do we go from signalling Gob to claim, to flash wagon in Hu?

This seems off.

How do we go from signalling Gob to claim, to flash wagon in Hu?

This seems off.

i think the speed and nature of the gob wagon is what feels off here. i think it's more likely there is scum pushing gob than gob being scum

As opposed to the speed and nature of the wagon on Hu??

How do we go from signalling Gob to claim, to flash wagon in Hu?

This seems off.

i think the speed and nature of the gob wagon is what feels off here. i think it's more likely there is scum pushing gob than gob being scum

As opposed to the speed and nature of the wagon on Hu??

???

there's two votes on hu tao and both of them have reasons behind them

....that happened just as gob was about to be limmed.

How do we go from signalling Gob to claim, to flash wagon in Hu?

This seems off.

i think the speed and nature of the gob wagon is what feels off here. i think it's more likely there is scum pushing gob than gob being scum

As opposed to the speed and nature of the wagon on Hu??

???

there's two votes on hu tao and both of them have reasons behind them

....that happened just as gob was about to be limmed.

why are you so sure gob is scum here?

Why are you so adamant they aren't?

And the issue with voting Hu isn't a content issue I have......just the timing to finally push her happened just as Gob was basically about to be limmed.

Do you understand my issue with you?

How do we go from signalling Gob to claim, to flash wagon in Hu?

This seems off.

i think the speed and nature of the gob wagon is what feels off here. i think it's more likely there is scum pushing gob than gob being scum

As opposed to the speed and nature of the wagon on Hu??

???

there's two votes on hu tao and both of them have reasons behind them

....that happened just as gob was about to be limmed.

why are you so sure gob is scum here?

Why are you so adamant they aren't?

And the issue with voting Hu isn't a content issue I have......just the timing to finally push her happened just as Gob was basically about to be limmed.

Do you understand my issue with you?

This is certainly a Drew post.

How is that a Drew post? You don't agree that the timing is odd?

drew my issue with you is you haven't really said much about or interacted with gob at all and suddenly you're fine hammering him because what...he thinks voting scum D1 is a bad idea? yes that's a pretty crappy opinion but how does that make him scum? i could maybe see if you thought he was scum with dragon but dragon claimed JK so i doubt that's how you feel

Well that is false that I didn't interact with Gob when I literally did as they protected Dragon.

And do you buy Dragons claim at face value? I don't, but can worry about that tomorrow.

What we can do is lim the person who bent over backwards trying to protect, who they even admit is scummy, with shoddy logic at best.

Or lim Hu, who is disengaged I guess?

[Black]

Yeah I'm considering that. I still think it's possible Drew jumped on me because he knew I would look scummy for it after gob eventually flipped. And here he is today trying to push me for it after pretty much ignoring it yesterday due to there not being an appetite for my wagon. It's a little sus

[Black]

Why do you think town!Drew would avoid voting for me or even Umlaut there?

[Hu Tao]

Not sure. I think it's dragon or you. But I still wait for dragon

[Black]

I really don't think it's Dragon anymore and it's not me. So if you're town I'll tell you the same thing I told Drew. Start solving outside of me!scum or you're actively throwing the game

[Black]

I think I want Drew --> slightly smaller gap than before --> Hu Tao at this point. Refusing to solve outside of a tunnel just feels really anti-town at this point

[Hu Tao]

[Doctor Drew]

I think I want Drew --> slightly smaller gap than before --> Hu Tao at this point. Refusing to solve outside of a tunnel just feels really anti-town at this point

So saying you are scum is scummy?

[Black]

You can laugh but you're going to feel bad after fading town me and town!Dragon. At least you will actually have to try then I guess

[Black]

I think I want Drew --> slightly smaller gap than before --> Hu Tao at this point. Refusing to solve outside of a tunnel just feels really anti-town at this point

So saying you are scum is scummy?

Not putting critical thought into the game is scummy. Not cooperating and considering other options is scummy. Tunneling is usually town indicative but it's still anti-town. You and Hu Tao are both displaying these behaviors

[Hu Tao]

I've given my read. I led on scum day 1. I'm trying to play the game optimally so I don't know what else you want from me.

[Hu Tao]

Is dragon getting a prod or something? I'm not sure how those work.

[Black]

I've given my read. I led on scum day 1. I'm trying to play the game optimally so I don't know what else you want from me.

I want you to try harder but I guess I can't expect everyone to play like me

I mean I asked you why town!Drew would avoid voting me or Umlaut after we hopped off of gob and your answer was "not sure". I want you to think critically about this and help me solve this if you're town, but like I said I can't really expect that from someone unwilling to do so. It's just frustrating