In post 101, Black wrote:
I like T3 here too. 15 feels like he's mocking bella considering his read in 26 which is kinda mean but not necessarily scum indicative. I like Project's read on T3 in 91 and I had similar thoughts when reading through, so I like Project so far as well
Black - I’m taking ‘like’ to equate to leaning town but is there more to what is making you lean town for T3?
I found the reasons in your post to be fairly weak to form a town read, even though part of it is based off of shared thoughts with me. Whilst I gave thoughts in 91 as to what I found to be town leaning about T3, I though those thoughts were very basic and could easily be inapplicable to a more experienced player. Presumably you don’t agree? (Or agree basic but still applicable ha)
The other part of your comments regarding him point out that him being mean is not necessarily scum indicative, but it wouldn’t make me lean Town either.
I’m just curious if there is more that I’m missing as to why you (or anyone else) think T3 is leaning town.
I would say it's more of a townlean than a full on townread, and yeah it's definitely weak. My reads generally are early on. There's not much more to my read other than thinking T3 doesn't have to be doing this if he's scum here. And thinking about his mocking of bella a little more I feel like that's more likely to come from town. I don't think scum would want to make enemies on page 1
i would rather t3 than kurtapika personally. but i should note that every time i've sat down to look at kurtapika i just go "ugh that's a lot of words per post" and get distracted. so my opinion there is not as well-researched as it should be
reskimmed T3's iso, and he doesn't seem at all worried about persuading Black that he's town, even after Black started pushing him. He did try to defend himself from other people SRing him, but the way he was acting with Black makes me think he wasn't at all worried about her read on him. so that further solidifies T3 as scum in my mind.
In post 1186, Skygazer wrote:
reskimmed T3's iso, and he doesn't seem at all worried about persuading Black that he's town, even after Black started pushing him. He did try to defend himself from other people SRing him, but the way he was acting with Black makes me think he wasn't at all worried about her read on him. so that further solidifies T3 as scum in my mind.
Oh come on. I defended myself from Aisa because she had an abjectly terrible and scummy argument and I defended myself from OWER for similar reasons. I defended myself from Black when I needed to:
In post 937, Black wrote:
"you're scum because you voted me" like he's doing with Aisa.
I don't think I'm doing that? I've explained my reasoning and I'm not sure what's wrong with said reasoning.
I suppose my tone might come off here as not entirely concerned with Black’s argument but that was because, I don’t know. I guess like, deep down I knew she had a somewhat valid point about me OMGUSing Aisa or at least I kind of knew that I was going for her harder than I should have due to annoyance at being wagoned.
In post 1186, Skygazer wrote:
reskimmed T3's iso, and he doesn't seem at all worried about persuading Black that he's town, even after Black started pushing him. He did try to defend himself from other people SRing him, but the way he was acting with Black makes me think he wasn't at all worried about her read on him. so that further solidifies T3 as scum in my mind.
Oh come on. I defended myself from Aisa because she had an abjectly terrible and scummy argument and I defended myself from OWER for similar reasons. I defended myself from Black when I needed to:
In post 937, Black wrote:
"you're scum because you voted me" like he's doing with Aisa.
I don't think I'm doing that? I've explained my reasoning and I'm not sure what's wrong with said reasoning.
I suppose my tone might come off here as not entirely concerned with Black’s argument but that was because, I don’t know. I guess like, deep down I knew she had a somewhat valid point about me OMGUSing Aisa or at least I kind of knew that I was going for her harder than I should have due to annoyance at being wagoned.
The other time Black scumread me and explained her reasoning for it was because of subjective meta knowledge - she said that I am “more calculating” as town. How the hell am I supposed to respond to that???
with 14 alive, it took 8 to over-represent someone's malice.
Aside from Afrayed Knott, the wagons on T3, Black and K all overlap which suggests Black is not being bussed. Black's selfhammer was a ploy to get us to turn on each other.