Mini Normal 2319: Flavorless Hell | Day 5

[Hu Tao]

If dragon is scum it changes his response potentially. Either way, no Elim here takes last day from a 25% chance to 33% chance to get scum.

[Hu Tao]

Also why are we voting drew? We didn't vote black yesterday. I'm so confused

[Dannflor]

we can just no-elim tomorrow if there is one too...

[Dannflor]

because scum not killing twice in a row effectively gave us an extra elimination

it would be bad

i think scum would risk framing someone once, (and also to get info on who Dragon is targeting) but not twice

I think it's more likely scum wanted to get info on who Dragon targeted and then make a kill thinking it likely Dragon would target someone other than scum

[Black]

Also why are we voting drew? We didn't vote black yesterday. I'm so confused

People thought I was town and my claim made sense

I think you're the only one townreading Drew

[Dannflor]

like I agree we should get back on odds before elim-lo, that always improves our chances

but we don't have to do that today necessarily

[Black]

Drew might have tried to kill Dragon but got locked up instead

[Doctor Drew]

Kinda want to just fade Drew here ngl but I'm still paranoid that scum is no killing

I guess only one way to find out?

VOTE: Drew

Well this is the wrong way.

I like how Black gets jailed, no prob.....I get jailed, must be scum.

I do kinda believe Dragons, I don't trust Black at all, Dann I feel worse if Black is town.

Hu could be deep wolfing, but they are the only one making sense here(at least in regards to to me lol).

Pre Edit: Black, wouldn't scum be more likely to fake a claim that 'makes sense'?

[Dannflor]

1082 is the scummiest post i've read all game lol

[Hu Tao]

Sorry drew, i am town. This waiting has drained most excitement I had for this game. I think you're clearly town. But I don't have the energy to try

[Black]

Pre Edit: Black, wouldn't scum be more likely to fake a claim that 'makes sense'?

Not necessarily. Weren't you the last to claim? If there are already 3 claimed PRs then a 4th PR claim wouldn't really make sense balance wise here

Plus I think certain people are probably going to just take the easy route and claim VT instead of think of something that fits. I'm not sure if you would do this but I know this type of player exists because I'm one of them

[Hu Tao]

No Elim is still the best to do now and not later since scum haven't killed twice in a row but I can't be bothered to try to argue here.

[Black]

Ok then don't lol. Go back to lurking and not doing anything and we will figure this thing out without you

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I have seen the claim and will try to think about it but I'm out of time to play atm

[Black]

Pre Edit: Black, wouldn't scum be more likely to fake a claim that 'makes sense'?

Not necessarily. Weren't you the last to claim? If there are already 3 claimed PRs then a 4th PR claim wouldn't really make sense balance wise here

Plus I think certain people are probably going to just take the easy route and claim VT instead of think of something that fits. I'm not sure if you would do this but I know this type of player exists because I'm one of them

I misread your comment Drew. I think you can ignore my response because I thought you were saying you would claim a PR instead of VT

I think it's funny that you're trying to convince me I'm scum though

[Black]

I'm notoriously awful at setup and balance spec. I legit think I would need someone to help me come up with a fake claim that made sense. I've never fake claimed anything but VT

[Dannflor]

I like how Black gets jailed, no prob.....I get jailed, must be scum.

This doesn't consider people's reads, the gamestate, or any other nuances. It's purely a salty take about being pushed and stinks of "caught for the wrong reasons."

I do kinda believe Dragons, I don't trust Black at all, Dann I feel worse if Black is town.

Dragons is essentially conf-town given the amount of power claimed, unless Kyouko's role is crazy powerful. "kinda believe Dragons" sounds very fake. Lining me up if Black flips town is also scummy.

Hu could be deep wolfing, but they are the only one making sense here(at least in regards to to me lol).

Drew needs A LOT of miselims in order to win this game so he needs to cast doubt on almost everybody. This sentence is overly qualified and just further emblematic of the fact that there are no actual reads portrayed in this post, just positioning.

Pre Edit: Black, wouldn't scum be more likely to fake a claim that 'makes sense'?

lol. why is drew trying to convince Black that Black is scum? This is also purely a WIFOM argument. It doesn't consider what the claim actually is or what type of sense it makes. It doesn't consider kyouko backing Black up with support of Black's claim, it's just shading Black for the sake of it.

[Celebloki]

This makes sense to me. As I said yesterday, I was expecting that Dragon had targeted Drew and that's why we had a no kill. It still makes sense to me that that is what happened, just the the JK protected the target and didn't roleblock. I can see Drew targetting Black that night.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I believe that is E-1

[Doctor Drew]

Dann, black said her claim made more sense then mine, hence my response.

And I am just giving my last reads since I figure no one will listen to me or Hu.

When I flip town, which btw I will, hopefully you will go back to that post you quoted and take it a bit more seriously.

[Doctor Drew]

This makes sense to me. As I said yesterday, I was expecting that Dragon had targeted Drew and that's why we had a no kill. It still makes sense to me that that is what happened, just the the JK protected the target and didn't roleblock. I can see Drew targetting Black that night.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I believe that is E-1

The lim order should really go Black, Cele, Dann imo.

Like Black said, Cele has been just complacent with Black's read on me, apologies to Dann lol....but if Black is town Cele should be the next to go

[Doctor Drew]

And no I wouldn't be putting this effort in if I was scum here, I would self hammer just to end things.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm notoriously awful at setup and balance spec. I legit think I would need someone to help me come up with a fake claim that made sense. I've never fake claimed anything but VT

When I fake claim I go out of my way to make sure it makes sense to the game, and I am definitely not a setup spec person.

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Black, wouldn't scum be more likely to fake a claim that 'makes sense'?

Not necessarily. Weren't you the last to claim? If there are already 3 claimed PRs then a 4th PR claim wouldn't really make sense balance wise here

Plus I think certain people are probably going to just take the easy route and claim VT instead of think of something that fits. I'm not sure if you would do this but I know this type of player exists because I'm one of them

I misread your comment Drew. I think you can ignore my response because I thought you were saying you would claim a PR instead of VT

I think it's funny that you're trying to convince me I'm scum though

I am trying to convince others that you are scum and that you should be the lim tomorrow

[Hu Tao]

Ok then don't lol. Go back to lurking and not doing anything and we will figure this thing out without you

Not sure why you've been snappy at me all game, but hopefully you're just scum.

[Hu Tao]

Dann, black said her claim made more sense then mine, hence my response.

And I am just giving my last reads since I figure no one will listen to me or Hu.

When I flip town, which btw I will, hopefully you will go back to that post you quoted and take it a bit more seriously.