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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:19 pm

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In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving
I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:20 pm

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In post 424, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".
I don't like this post
What else is new.
:lol:

You actually had a couple that I liked before this
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

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I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 427, Alianna wrote: I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.
Except this page was actually last page.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 426, Night Lights wrote:
In post 424, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".
I don't like this post
What else is new.
:lol:

You actually had a couple that I liked before this
Damn, i need to up my scumposting then.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:22 pm

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Re 419:

1. Nice to meet you Drew, my name is Dragon, not Python.

2. Yeah okay this is a slightly towny post. I agree with you on HT. Why don't you like the locktowns on Alianna though? Do you disagree about her being mega towny?
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:22 pm

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In post 253, Night Lights wrote:
In post 249, Something Cool wrote:
In post 248, Night Lights wrote:
In post 245, Something Cool wrote: Also Black can you commit to a read on us?
No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though
DE always does that though?

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Not that I can recall but my memory is also shit so I'm willing to admit I just don't remember him doing it
Lucky you.

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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:23 pm

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In post 427, Alianna wrote: I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.
Understandable. I even told Alisae coming into this that it might be hard for a lot of these players to trust me and that I could be a handicap
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:24 pm

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Fuck, I knew that after u-pic I will never get TR'd by Aureal again.

Aureal it's not my fault I rolled scum there, I didn't even obvtown before I repped out.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:25 pm

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In post 426, Night Lights wrote:
In post 424, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".
I don't like this post
What else is new.
:lol:

You actually had a couple that I liked before this
I liked , I feel like scum are more likely to give actual reasons than just respond with, "because I think you're town."
The last few posts give the vibe that she could be scum who just gave up and decided to troll though.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 pm

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In post 425, Night Lights wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving
I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads
It more reminded me of how Python has approached me and others before.

Pre Edit: Ya i realize it was you and not Python, Re: Look above lol

A. I don't like people lock towning people so early(shout out Sakura lol)

B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 372, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?
I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...
Can you explain this post? Were you thinking that it's better not to get enlightenment, even though it advances us towards wincon?
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 435, Doctor Drew wrote: B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'
I think she's pretty obvtown but it might just be because we're mindmelding a bit
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:30 pm

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Re: Drew post

Fair

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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:30 pm

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In post 435, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 425, Night Lights wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving
I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads
It more reminded me of how Python has approached me and others before.

Pre Edit: Ya i realize it was you and not Python, Re: Look above lol

A. I don't like people lock towning people so early(shout out Sakura lol)

B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'
B is also my read on you right now.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 pm

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I have to say I hate this game mechanics because trying to find town instead of scum means there's so much less pressure for scum to react to, and wagoms are really slow if they even exist. It's kinda like The Coalition except the coalition phase never ends.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:34 pm

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In post 276, Something Cool wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).
I don't have a read on this outside of not seeing any mechanism to make this work other than gating Dark Jester factional abilities behind the LE

-Python
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:35 pm

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In post 422, Something Cool wrote:
In post 371, Alianna wrote:
In post 369, Night Lights wrote:
In post 358, Alianna wrote:
In post 356, Aureal wrote: I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes." :lol:
Yep I thought this too, but I decided it's probably not very likely

Can you stop being so town
I can lurk and then you won't have to read "I townread Alianna" so much. And then I won't have to actually put in the effort to get properly caught up! It's a win-win situation! :lol:
Considering that today's spare is like either you or Kitty, I do agree you could lurk if you wanted to. But if you have any useful reads that'd be nice.
I would not expect my reads to be useful if I were you, accuracy is not one of my strong points lol.

P-edit: I actually like it because I tend to prefer townhunting over scumhunting anyway.
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:35 pm

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In post 439, Alianna wrote:
In post 435, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 425, Night Lights wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving
I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads
It more reminded me of how Python has approached me and others before.

Pre Edit: Ya i realize it was you and not Python, Re: Look above lol

A. I don't like people lock towning people so early(shout out Sakura lol)

B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'
B is also my read on you right now.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:36 pm

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In post 387, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 385, Night Lights wrote:
In post 381, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 295, Night Lights wrote:
In post 291, Something Cool wrote: Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh
I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here
Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

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Do you have any thoughts on Alianna or Hu Tao?
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:36 pm

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In post 434, Alianna wrote: The last few posts give the vibe that she could be scum who just gave up and decided to troll though.
...
You know.
Im just gonna post votes or unvotes from now on.
Im tired, i do something i get scumread, i dont do something i get scumread, i even get hell for trying to enjoy a game that's already boring me.
Just do whatever the heck you want.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 pm

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In post 441, Aureal wrote:
In post 276, Something Cool wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).
I don't have a read on this outside of not seeing any mechanism to make this work other than gating Dark Jester factional abilities behind the LE

-Python
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Jesters probably have some night abilities

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Dark Jesters do not have a Factional Kill By Default. Instead, they have a collection of abilities that each Dark Jester can use.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:38 pm

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In post 404, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 354, Alianna wrote: Idk if it's scummy but I don't like the ~vibes~ of it.
Maybe I'm scum then
That's a weird reaction to Alianna saying she doesn't know if your action is scummy or not.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:41 pm

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In post 445, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 434, Alianna wrote: The last few posts give the vibe that she could be scum who just gave up and decided to troll though.
...
You know.
Im just gonna post votes or unvotes from now on.
Im tired, i do something i get scumread, i dont do something i get scumread, i even get hell for trying to enjoy a game that's already boring me.
Just do whatever the heck you want.
I'm done.

FWIW I am null on you and think being tired / low efforting is NAI.

I'd be happy if you could enjoy this game regardless of your alignment though
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:43 pm

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I'm conflicted on Sakura. Like I said, there's stuff I like and stuff I don't like. I don't think I'd vote there right now though.
And yes, I do hope you find a way to enjoy the game!
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