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[Naerys]

Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.

Havent finished my thoughts here, lol. Sent it by mistake.
Anyway, while faking doctor is something Hu Tao did as town, i think we need to look at her behavior since beginning. First she claims vanilla, then when she gets pushed she claims doctor. At the very best she feels untrustworthy, at the worst these are scummy moves. She could be doing it bcz she knows there are players who have seen her faking doctor as town, so she counts on that those will TR her.
Conclusion: flipping Hu gives us decent info. It solves potential Hu+Broccoli+Gamma buddies.
VOTE: Hu Tao

This is rubbish. You think broccoli was scumreading me yesterday. I was scumreading gamma. And we are all teamed?

You could be. Distancing exists, after all.

[Elements]

VOTE: Hu Tao

This is certain scum

Nah, it's a lazy you voted me so I'm voting you

[Hu Tao]

Good morning, Hu Tao lied. She’s vanilla.

VOTE: Hu Tao

You could be a scum role cop. You softed doc/bodyguard.

Why would you think scum have 2 goons in a complex setup?

Makes no sense to claim as town to do this.

Wdym by the red?

Also could you quote the soft please?

Makes no sense as a town role cop to claim vanilla result on me here when goon was flipped already in a complex setup

[Naerys]

I wish everyone was so sure about that, she should have been the elim yesterday in that case instead of multiple speed wagons on other people that pushes more claim shenanigans.

Oh no. My claim made gamma claim which caused him to die. Tragedy....

Gamma uses she/it pronouns.

[Hu Tao]

Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.

Havent finished my thoughts here, lol. Sent it by mistake.
Anyway, while faking doctor is something Hu Tao did as town, i think we need to look at her behavior since beginning. First she claims vanilla, then when she gets pushed she claims doctor. At the very best she feels untrustworthy, at the worst these are scummy moves. She could be doing it bcz she knows there are players who have seen her faking doctor as town, so she counts on that those will TR her.
Conclusion: flipping Hu gives us decent info. It solves potential Hu+Broccoli+Gamma buddies.
VOTE: Hu Tao

This is rubbish. You think broccoli was scumreading me yesterday. I was scumreading gamma. And we are all teamed?

You could be. Distancing exists, after all.

You said I claimed doctor as vanilla town before. Yet you think I scum still?

[DragonEater70]

Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Pedit: Gamma is a her btw.

Additionally, Elements you should probably unvote HT if you are town.

[Hu Tao]

I wish everyone was so sure about that, she should have been the elim yesterday in that case instead of multiple speed wagons on other people that pushes more claim shenanigans.

Oh no. My claim made gamma claim which caused him to die. Tragedy....

Gamma uses she/it pronouns.

She*

[DragonEater70]

Naur. Another altslip.

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Good morning, Hu Tao lied. She’s vanilla.

VOTE: Hu Tao

You could be a scum role cop. You softed doc/bodyguard.

Why would you think scum have 2 goons in a complex setup?

Makes no sense to claim as town to do this.

Wdym by the red?

Also could you quote the soft please?

Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Pedit: Gamma is a her btw.

Additionally, Elements you should probably unvote HT if you are town.

Naur. Another altslip.

[Hu Tao]

Her* sorry I was typing too fast

[Naerys]

Makes no sense as a town role cop to claim vanilla result on me here when goon was flipped already in a complex setup

So you think Cele is lying?

[Naerys]

Naur. Another altslip.

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Naur. Another altslip.

I'm taking a break from playing on alts after this game, mark my words.

[Naerys]

Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Quite possible, lol.

[Hu Tao]

I know no one is gonna believe this. But I wouldn't have n1'd black here. I did that last game and I think it wouldn't be fair to do the same here. Unless she claimed pr or something, I'd like to play with her actually

[Hu Tao]

Makes no sense as a town role cop to claim vanilla result on me here when goon was flipped already in a complex setup

So you think Cele is lying?

I think Cele is a scum role cop potentially. I'll quote the doc soft

[Elements]

Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Pedit: Gamma is a her btw.

Additionally, Elements you should probably unvote HT if you are town.

Yeah I should
UNVOTE:

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Good morning, Hu Tao lied. She’s vanilla.

VOTE: Hu Tao

You could be a scum role cop. You softed doc/bodyguard.

Why would you think scum have 2 goons in a complex setup?

Makes no sense to claim as town to do this.

Wdym by the red?

Also could you quote the soft please?

Makes no sense as a town role cop to claim vanilla result on me here when goon was flipped already in a complex setup

Oh I see what you mean.

I also felt Celebloki's claim was a blunder if town.

[Hu Tao]

Even though she wants me dead, I still don't think Kyouko's the play today.

This might seem completely out of left field, but I am just pondering scenario's.

In a game this size, and considering Hu Tao's claim of Complex Indecisive Doctor, is a second town protective role likely balance-wise or would that be too town sided?

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Naerys it pains me to say this but I agree with Hu Tao that your read is rubbish.

Pedit: Gamma is a her btw.

Additionally, Elements you should probably unvote HT if you are town.

Yeah I should
UNVOTE:

Wow that was easy. I was wondering whether it's AI for Elements to be so easy to persuade, but luckily Kyoko is here so I don't have to do any meta research.

[Elements]

I know no one is gonna believe this. But I wouldn't have n1'd black here. I did that last game and I think it wouldn't be fair to do the same here. Unless she claimed pr or something, I'd like to play with her actually

I believe that more than the "Hu Tao has fakeclaimed as town before so that's townie of them"

[Naerys]

Even though she wants me dead, I still don't think Kyouko's the play today.

This might seem completely out of left field, but I am just pondering scenario's.

In a game this size, and considering Hu Tao's claim of Complex Indecisive Doctor, is a second town protective role likely balance-wise or would that be too town sided?

I think i was hasty in believing Celebloki.
UNVOTE: Hu tao

[Hu Tao]

I still think Elements is tied with gamma as I showed from early game. So I prefer that. It's possible that Cele could be town but not sure why they would soft doc as a cop.

[Elements]

I still think Elements is tied with gamma as I showed from early game. So I prefer that. It's possible that Cele could be town but not sure why they would soft doc as a cop.

Where did you show I was tied with Gamma?

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Nice, now I can go back to townbinning Naerys and continue with the search for the fabled scum.

I agree with HT that a lot of Elements and Gamma combined ISO looks like distancing, but I feel Elements unvoting here is probably town? Again I don't know how submissive Elements tends to be as scum but it's just my impression of the play that it's coming from town.

Yeah I know I'm hedging. But I am not feeling confident about calling Elements town for "towny behavior" after Gamma flipped scum.

Pedit: or I can just sheep Hu Tao.