Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Hu Tao]

My only reads still are rce and Thom town. Anyone have any strong scumread so far?

[Dunnstral]

I won a scum game with Gob recently.

This is similar.

They’re purposeful as scum, yet fluffy and seemingly doing nothing.

They’re doing a very similar thing here.

So basically, I’m countering your meta read with my meta read.

Your read is valid, but for now, I’m happy pushing Gob.

I am noting your meta defense, though. I could be wrong.

Does this read work when we're only on the first few pages of the game?

[DragonEater70]

flavor

VC 1.03

VC 1.03

Flavor Leaf (3): ssbm_kyouko, Roden, gob
gob (3): SirCakez, Flavor Leaf, Bingle
Hu Tao (1): Naerys
RCEnigma (1): RCEnigma
Dunnstral (1): Thomith

No elimination (1): AnimatedWiz

Not voting (3): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, abundantly

It takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline: (expired on 2023-12-18 16:10:00).

[Flavor Leaf]

I won a scum game with Gob recently.

This is similar.

They’re purposeful as scum, yet fluffy and seemingly doing nothing.

They’re doing a very similar thing here.

So basically, I’m countering your meta read with my meta read.

Your read is valid, but for now, I’m happy pushing Gob.

I am noting your meta defense, though. I could be wrong.

Does this read work when we're only on the first few pages of the game?

Sure. With further actions made by players, it’s easier for gamestate perspective to change, though, and change things.

I state how things are in the moment, and then adapt as i feel gamestate changes.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m playing in a Timothy-AWiz town core mode.

[Flavor Leaf]

Thomith*

Autocorrects me to Timothy lol

[Thomith]

I mean I guess he could do it as scum, but his start to this game seemed pretty much identical to that town game (both with the statement to gather reactions that i mentioned, and the following posts), which is why I had a light town read for now.

In that same game, Kyouko seemed much more engaged early on than she is currently, but tbh that could just be because she is busy or something, so NAI for now, but will be interested in her first few content posts to help me make a choice there.

Dunn is pinging me because of how he questioned Hu Tao's lack of a vote, but not gobs, and also not voting himself, but again that's a small thing.

Hu Tao pocketed me in our last game and I'm a paranoid person so I'm struggling to get a read right now , that should go as the day progresses though hopefully. Slight scum pings, but again I feel like this might just be me being paranoid.

RCE and Flavor Leaf have me leaning town at the moment, but that's mainly a gut read combined with their posts seemed to be attempting to progress a kinda slow game.

After I said nothing with tr for I said scum likely wouldn't do that

You said in 95 that you also thought I was town, but made it sound like nothing I had really done was town indicative in 81, so I wanted to know what changed for you in 14 posts.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf Bad arguments

Why are they bad?

Flavor admitted the arguments were bad

Hu Tao could definitely be wolfing here.

I could be. But why?

PoE + obvious

Not a defense. Also didn't you do this exact same thing as scum? The response?

are u distancing from your buddy this early?

Do you actually think Hu Tao/Gob are buddies, if so why?

[Naerys]

Do you actually think Hu Tao/Gob are buddies, if so why?

I was jesting.

[Naerys]

I feel like Leaf is in his lazy town mode.

[Thomith]

Do you actually think Hu Tao/Gob are buddies, if so why?

I was jesting.

Thought you probably were, but just wanted to double check if I missed something.

[Naerys]

Thomith feels similiar like in a micro 1094, so he might be town too.

[Hu Tao]

Thom I just like your questions and vibes seem similar to last game

[Naerys]

Thom I just like your questions and vibes seem similar to last game

This feels like purposeful copying of what i wrote

[Hu Tao]

Yes. You caught me

[Bingle]

My only reads still are rce and Thom town. Anyone have any strong scumread so far?

Hu Tao, FL, Dunn, gob. Not necessarily in that order.

[Thomith]

My only reads still are rce and Thom town. Anyone have any strong scumread so far?

Hu Tao, FL, Dunn, gob. Not necessarily in that order.

I can kind of tell why you suspect Dunn from your ISO, but why do you scumread Hu Tao, FL and gob?

[gob]

Gotta get rid of Bingle here

[Bingle]

My only reads still are rce and Thom town. Anyone have any strong scumread so far?

Hu Tao, FL, Dunn, gob. Not necessarily in that order.

I can kind of tell why you suspect Dunn from your ISO, but why do you scumread Hu Tao, FL and gob?

gob is pushing FL for having bad reasoning, not for anything actually scum indicative.
FL seems to be avoiding scumreading me and avoiding working with me, which is moderately scum indicative because we're a force of nature when we're both town and I have a very solid record of soulreading him.
Hu Tao is avoiding seriously engaging with anything in favor of little throwaway posts like:

VOTE: Flavor Leaf Bad arguments

Why are they bad?

Flavor admitted the arguments were bad

Hu Tao could definitely be wolfing here.

I could be. But why?

PoE + obvious

Not a defense. Also didn't you do this exact same thing as scum? The response?

I didn't know emojis were scummy

Like... This is the kind of thing that has no real purpose. It's posting to be posting, and it's focusing on a push on her that's going nowhere but not really in a way that makes me think she's actually looking to figure out what gob's alignment is.


For bonus points, the specific thing Dunn went looking for seems like a thing that wouldn't really be expected to give results, which makes me think it's fake in a LAMIST way. Like, outside of super tryhards, I wouldn't expect anyone to meta whether someone says hi coming into a game. And when the result of the meta was "Nothing to see here, folks, move along." I would expect town Dunn to just not care. The fact that Dunn questioned it, spent 30 minutes doing meta research, apparently, and then undercut his own line of questioning just feels performative.

[Bingle]

Gotta get rid of Bingle here

Hardclaim deathproof lim redirecting PGO. Goodluck.

[AnimatedWiz]

Not too many—I do like Thomith’s questions, though.

How do you intend to change that?

It’ll naturally change as the game evolves—just trying to get a feel for everyone so far before I jump in headfirst. Watching y’all argue has been helping with that, though.

[AnimatedWiz]

Gotta get rid of Bingle here

Hardclaim deathproof lim redirecting PGO. Goodluck.

What does this mean?

[Bingle]

It means if we eliminate me then I pick someone else to die instead, I can't be killed by either nightkill or elimination, and if you target me I kill you reflexively.

Also, all of those are roles or modifiers that can't exist in Normal games.

[Bingle]

It’ll naturally change as the game evolves—just trying to get a feel for everyone so far before I jump in headfirst. Watching y’all argue has been helping with that, though.

The drawback to fly-on-the-wall as town is that no one can sort you. The advantage to fly-on-the-wall as scum is that no one can sort you. Do you think Dunn meta-ing Hu Tao's choice of opening is something that someone would be likely to do?

[Dunnstral]

I guess I'm a super tryhard.

[Flavor Leaf]

i followed on dunn for a second, and im not avoiding scum reading ya bingle, i lean/light scum read ya if that makes you feel better