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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:35 pm

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Is there any other reason you scumread Dannflor? I don't think he's been on the site today
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:54 pm

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yea idk im like 75% that he's just not been around. i think him actively avoiding the thread in this situation isn't much more likely to happen if he's scum, if at all, so i don't really get it
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:01 pm

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In post 548, Aristeia wrote:maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.

it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.
like this feels like kind of a stretch to me in several ways

- i don't think dann would really believe that meuh would be likely to go over without his active support
- i don't think it would be a particularly difficult thread state for him to navigate
- i don't think it would help him long term as scum to be conspicuously absent while town pushes town. that's likely to look significantly worse than being present
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:06 pm

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In post 550, Black wrote: Is there any other reason you scumread Dannflor? I don't think he's been on the site today
i felt like the way he responded to me saying he was town for scumreading me for being nice felt somewhat guilty in a weird way
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 552, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 548, Aristeia wrote:maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.

it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.
like this feels like kind of a stretch to me in several ways

- i don't think dann would really believe that meuh would be likely to go over without his active support
- i don't think it would be a particularly difficult thread state for him to navigate
- i don't think it would help him long term as scum to be conspicuously absent while town pushes town. that's likely to look significantly worse than being present
ok but i just played a game with scum!dann where he basically chilled while I fought with another loud town player so its kind of like deja vu to me
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:09 pm

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lets say you're right though fire

who is the mafia in the big group then?
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:19 pm

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In post 553, Aristeia wrote:
In post 550, Black wrote: Is there any other reason you scumread Dannflor? I don't think he's been on the site today
i felt like the way he responded to me saying he was town for scumreading me for being nice felt somewhat guilty in a weird way
i don't really see that as alignment indicative. i think he just felt bad for making what you called an icky read and regretted phrasing it that way. which i can very much relate to
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:20 pm

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In post 554, Aristeia wrote:
In post 552, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 548, Aristeia wrote:maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.

it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.
like this feels like kind of a stretch to me in several ways

- i don't think dann would really believe that meuh would be likely to go over without his active support
- i don't think it would be a particularly difficult thread state for him to navigate
- i don't think it would help him long term as scum to be conspicuously absent while town pushes town. that's likely to look significantly worse than being present
ok but i just played a game with scum!dann where he basically chilled while I fought with another loud town player so its kind of like deja vu to me
thats fair i guess. do you think that was an intentional choice by him though?
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:20 pm

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In post 555, Aristeia wrote: lets say you're right though fire

who is the mafia in the big group then?
my current vote is daisy
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 555, Aristeia wrote: lets say you're right though fire

who is the mafia in the big group then?
He went over this in
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:24 pm

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i think i feel a little stronger about that now than i did then. i felt like she was overly comfortable with just having me and meuh as poe because she townreads everyone else, and it felt like she wasn't interested in tackling the issue of who is actually scum

its fine to not know who is scum but it felt like there was a level of pushback against advancing her worldview in a solving direction, not just that she wasn't sure which direction to look
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:25 pm

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my phrasing there was confusing i think but hopefully the point makes some sense
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 558, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 555, Aristeia wrote: lets say you're right though fire

who is the mafia in the big group then?
my current vote is daisy
ok but why does daisy unvote at e-1 and back off the meuh mislim if she's mafia? optics?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:29 pm

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I'm paranoid about Daisy too but why does she unvote in instead of letting the whole Ari/Elements hammer thing play out if she's scum?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:29 pm

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it feels so counter intuitive to do at that spot unless she's mafia with elements and its planned?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:30 pm

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Nice mindmeld
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:30 pm

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Ari is either town or she's scum with Daisy imo
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:06 pm

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Meuh (3) - Dannflor, Elements, Black
Elements (1) - Afrayed Knott
OopsieDaisy (1) - fireisredsir
Black (1) - Meuh
Dannflor (1) - Aristeia

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(2) - Ydrasse, OopsieDaisy

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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:24 pm

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Wow the fire wagon evaporated
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:08 pm

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Hi, I’ll post later today hopefully, as I have a busy day ahead in the garden.

I have had a quick read through. Have some thoughts on a few things so hopefully I can get them down on paper. Chat later.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:58 pm

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In post 562, Aristeia wrote:
In post 558, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 555, Aristeia wrote: lets say you're right though fire

who is the mafia in the big group then?
my current vote is daisy
ok but why does daisy unvote at e-1 and back off the meuh mislim if she's mafia? optics?
In post 563, Black wrote: I'm paranoid about Daisy too but why does she unvote in instead of letting the whole Ari/Elements hammer thing play out if she's scum?
In post 564, Aristeia wrote: it feels so counter intuitive to do at that spot unless she's mafia with elements and its planned?
idk this is wild to me that you both have this opinion
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:59 pm

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personally i thought there was like a 2% chance of the day actually ending there
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:00 pm

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you asking elements if you should hammer just looked like a very obvious reaction test i didn't think you were actually ever going to
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:02 pm

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it seems extremely intuitive to me to unvote there as maf so its just very baffling to me that you think it would be unlikely

if it was just ari thinking that id say partnered but idk why black thinks so too
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:11 pm

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like maybe im bad at maf or something but if i were in daisy's shoes i think my instinct would be to unvote in that situation like 9 times out of 10

unless i thought there was a threat of me dying instead that day i think its just like almost always better

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