Open 895 - 09:12 PM - Postgame

[Black]

Well i am not gonna let you guys flip Cook here today,

unless I change my mind on Cook.

So you

do

think she's town?

[gob]

Well i am not gonna let you guys flip Cook here today,

unless I change my mind on Cook.

So you

do

think she's town?

I don't really feel one way or the other on Cook. The fact so many people are gunning for Cook here though, does make me think Cook is town though.

Especially when I feel like kyo/ele is locked but whatever not many people get that

[Black]

These:

I know who we limm today i think. hydra Mizuki black or cook.

It could be cook. Im just more certain of ele/kyo

About what cook or ele/kyo?

The fact Cook is voting with me right now makes me think it could be Cook/Kyouko here

Don't really track with this:

I don't really feel one way or the other on Cook.

[gob]

822 is basically what i've been saying though. 824 is just clarification too. Those 2 quotes shouldn't be in there so idk why you put those in, kind of bad faith.

691 was before I did my wagon analysis.
773 i did feel at the time, but it was mainly to see how cook would react

[gob]

There really is nothing here.

Let us focus on ele/kyo

[Elements]

Let us focus on ele/kyo

Do you have reads on either of other besides "props one scum off wagon"?

[Black]

There really is nothing here.

Let us focus on ele/kyo

We're not going Elements or Kyouko

We go Cook or Mizuki, or we can fade you instead

Your choice

[gob]

Let us focus on ele/kyo

Do you have reads on either of other besides "props one scum off wagon"?

Not right now. Thats just where im gonna start. I haven't done any solving besides those 2 PoE.

There really is nothing here.

Let us focus on ele/kyo

We're not going Elements or Kyouko

We go Cook or Mizuki, or we can fade you instead

Your choice

Anyway I can convince you otherwise? Or are you married to Cook/Miz

[Black]

Anyway I can convince you otherwise? Or are you married to Cook/Miz

I could maybe compromise on D&D

[Elements]

Let us focus on ele/kyo

Do you have reads on either of other besides "props one scum off wagon"?

Not right now. Thats just where im gonna start. I haven't done any solving besides those 2 PoE.

Dope, I'll wait for that

[Alianna]

2.05

Votecount 2.05

Cook (E-1): Black, Doc and Drew, Elements
Elements (E-2): gob, Cook

Not Voting (2): Mizuki, ssbm_Kyouko

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-24 14:59:37).

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I've got this sort of nagging feeling about Mizuki this game - last game engaging with her, she felt more open, here she feels more walled off.

Like when I asked about her "really" not knowing gob had hammered, the answer felt kind of flat. I didn't think much of it at the time but the more I think.about Mizuki the more I come back to this. I don't think Cook is scum here, would like to try this instead. I was looking at her vote on shaddowes and the previous post is the first time in her ISO she talks about him, where she's replying to a post where he says he'd be okay limming her. I thought maybe it was deadline-related but there were 2 days left it looked like. I don't like it.

VOTE: Mizuki

[Mizuki]

I'm back, catching up. Responding to the post above me since it's the first thing I see though, I agree I'm walled off as a result of a combination of IRL destroying my activity and the fact that I'm simply just, not having a whole lot of fun this game.

[Black]

I'm back, catching up. Responding to the post above me since it's the first thing I see though, I agree I'm walled off as a result of a combination of IRL destroying my activity and the fact that I'm simply just, not having a whole lot of fun this game.

Why are you not having fun

[gob]

Good morning Black.

Time i impress everyone

[Black]

Good morning gob

[gob]

shaddowez

(EXECUTED):

Claptastik

, Doc and Drew, Mizuki, Black, Cook
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Elements,

gob

Elements (1): ssbm_Kyouko
Claptastik (1):

shaddowez

On a mislim wagon Day 1, there is always at least one wolf. Given the night kill was on the shaddowez wagon (Claptastik) I find it more likely there is 1 mafia on shaddowez and 1 mafia off. Why? Because if the mafia NK'd Claptastik on the main shaddowez wagon, it means they aren't scared of making the PoE from the main-wagon being 50/50 with 2 mafia in it.

This leaves Elements / ssbm_kyouko

Between the two I find ssbm_kyouko far more likely to mafia. The main reason is I feel she isn't being as forceful and open as normally. It feels like she was playing scared. Not to mention the difference in activity.

For the on-wagon wolf.

First off I want to mention that Elements and Kyoko together also have w/w equity but that is relatively unlikely. Elements is hard to read at EoD1 for me, but I lean kyoko over Ele for that PoE.

Anyway for the on-wagon wolf,

I don't really find Cook's play at EoD1 to indicate they're wolf. It's possible Cook is trying to go TWTBAW but it just seems really attention-drawing in a bad way for no reason. Doc and Drew, Mizuki, Black is who I would look at in that PoE. Frankly I feel like they all have wolf equity which is why I dont really want to lim in that pool today.

If I were to guess right now though, Doc and Drew. A lot of Drew's engagement feels fake af.

[Elements]

Gob
If both red were on the Shadow wagon who do they kill off wagon?
Kyouko or Elements - both of us were possible counter wagons so potentialyl mislimable
So probably you?

[Elements]

Was anyone not towning clap at the end of day 1?

[Mizuki]

Reading from D2 start and diving through various ISO's. I kind of want to say Elements is scum here? I think there's content here that looks townie but there's certain things about her posting, like a lack of response to Kyouko's 737, which I actually think is a good point that got buried, and voting with Black after voicing suspicion on her all day without any inclination that the read on Black has actually changed. I also just think that a lot of the content could be faked.

Gob still town, Kyouko still town, Black I'm paranoid about but I think is probably just town.

Cook I flip-flop on. I think she's probably just LHF? But that read deteriorates the longer she stays at E-1 without being hammered.

Honestly I kind of fuck with the D&D/Elements solve because when I look through their ISO's the reads that those slots make towards each other feel hollow and half-hearted. Elements has "pushed" D&D twice for very shallow reasons and then jumped ship both times.

I'm back, catching up. Responding to the post above me since it's the first thing I see though, I agree I'm walled off as a result of a combination of IRL destroying my activity and the fact that I'm simply just, not having a whole lot of fun this game.

Why are you not having fun

Holidays, various family troubles, and the resulting impact on my mental health have been destroying my ability and motivation to play, and my low activity has compounded to the point where I feel like I don't really have an effect on the game at this point beyond my vote. It's the point I kind of want to be limmed here simply because I think if we mislim here than I will simply get auto-limmed tommorow in ELO and town loses.

[Mizuki]

Elements what is your actual read on Black at the moment?

[gob]

Gob
If both red were on the Shadow wagon who do they kill off wagon?
Kyouko or Elements - both of us were possible counter wagons so potentialyl mislimable
So probably you?

Me probably yea.

[Black]

VOTE: Doc and Drew

[Elements]

Elements what is your actual read on Black at the moment?

Not sure, I'll look later

[gob]

I'm not really sure why everyone is allergic to Elements/Kyoko

Especially Kyouko.