Large Normal 246: Game Over

[Guillotina]

Good news is you can't all 4 be scum - due to the way FN works we should be killing Guillo or Dunn if we think Naerys or Andres are possibly lying, but I think both FNs are legit

Killing scum!me would not confirm scum!Naerys
And same goes for Andres/Dunn.

Why cant i be scum confirming Fn Naerys? Wouldnt killing Naerys confirm we both are lying if she was scum with me? Same goes for Andres/Dunn.

That’d be a too risky play to do as scum specially after losing two, i dont think Andres/Dunn do it, it’s suicidal, specially because it would appear as a double counterclaim.

Occam’s razor all four of us are town or only Dunn is scum. (Or myself from Dunn’s perspective if he is town).

[Dunnstral]

Kyouko's point is that if we eliminate you or me and are wrong the fn can be confirmed town

[Hu Tao]

Actually I remember when key was forced to claim it seemed more natural. I think I'd prefer RN today.

[Guillotina]

Kyouko's point is that if we eliminate you or me and are wrong the fn can be confirmed town

Wrong about what? Define wrong here.

[Dunnstral]

If you think Andres is mafia you should vote me instead of Andres because me flipping town would confirm Andres as town, and I would have to be lying for Andres to be mafia

[Hu Tao]

Dunn has been town since post 1. Don't see myself voting there.

[davesaz]

I believe Naerys' claim.

Don't go away, someone claimed the FN you said you received so we need to know if it's right.

[davesaz]

heh, there was another page, I thought I was looking at the tail of the thread

[Hu Tao]

I've done that before too

[Guillotina]

If you think Andres is mafia you should vote me instead of Andres because me flipping town would confirm Andres as town, and I would have to be lying for Andres to be mafia

I disagree. Andres could be still town whom Fn Scum!dunn, is not like you have any other choice but to confirm Andres. Same applies to Naerys/Me, if i was scum i would still confirm town!Naerys otherwise she’d know im lying.

[Guillotina]

So i dont understand that logic. The right logic would be killing Naerys or Andres, because if they were scum then they never sent the confirmation to either of us thus we lied to.

[Enchant]

What the fuck you all talking about

[Hu Tao]

Okay. So is guillotine just scum? I'm not sure what's happening here.

[Dunnstral]

I believe Naerys' claim.

Don't go away, someone claimed the FN you said you received so we need to know if it's right.

Yes I got FN from Andres

[davesaz]

I don't see any way Guillotina is scum and reacts to Hu Tao's doc claim that way.
Also reminder that I had seen the crumb and said right off that the real doc should not CC.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Good news is you can't all 4 be scum - due to the way FN works we should be killing Guillo or Dunn if we think Naerys or Andres are possibly lying, but I think both FNs are legit

Killing scum!me would not confirm scum!Naerys
And same goes for Andres/Dunn.

Why cant i be scum confirming Fn Naerys?

Wouldnt killing Naerys confirm we both are lying if she was scum with me? Same goes for Andres/Dunn.

That’d be a too risky play to do as scum specially after losing two, i dont think Andres/Dunn do it, it’s suicidal, specially because it would appear as a double counterclaim.

Occam’s razor all four of us are town or only Dunn is scum. (Or myself from Dunn’s perspective if he is town).

The bold is why you or Dunn would die first if we suspected a FN - scumflips of either of you would not confirm the claimed FNs are scum, it would just un-clear them

[davesaz]

What the fuck you all talking about

Big delay showing up, interesting...

[Dunnstral]

If you think Andres is mafia you should vote me instead of Andres because me flipping town would confirm Andres as town, and I would have to be lying for Andres to be mafia

I disagree. Andres could be still town whom Fn Scum!dunn, is not like you have any other choice but to confirm Andres. Same applies to Naerys/Me, if i was scum i would still confirm town!Naerys otherwise she’d know im lying.

If you assume we are all town it is better to eliminate you or me rather than Naerys or Andres

[Enchant]

What the fuck you all talking about

Big delay showing up, interesting...

You better don't.

[Hu Tao]

Anyone again RN being the vote today? After they check in

[Hu Tao]

Against*

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Hu Tao (E-7): Scummy
Elements (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Dunnstral (E-7): Towny
Broccoli Quest 2 (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Enchant (E-7): Null
ssbm_Kyouko (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma
TimmerRC (E-7): Cant remember
Andresvmb (E-7): Towny
Naerys (E-7): Confirmed Town
davesaz (E-7): Cant remember
Guillotina (E-7): Town
Random Nurse (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma

Do you think the way Roden pushed Hu Tao was just scum bussing?

No, i just cant let go of the fact they tried to make me CC on day 1. I will never forget it.

I understand that but they did exactly that in a past town game.

I dont care. Maybe you guys let people get away with that instead of policying the slot so they stop, but i dont. If Hu is town and we reach lylo we already lost this game because i cant forget that.

Okay we will vote you out before then. Good to know

Hu Tao you are 90% town in my book, but we're never voting Guillo this game.

[Dunnstral]

Anyone again RN being the vote today? After they check in

I am due to their interaction with Gamma I quoted in 2345

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Hu Tao (E-7): Scummy
Elements (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Dunnstral (E-7): Towny
Broccoli Quest 2 (E-7): Spewed town from both Gamma and Rode
Enchant (E-7): Null
ssbm_Kyouko (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma
TimmerRC (E-7): Cant remember
Andresvmb (E-7): Towny
Naerys (E-7): Confirmed Town
davesaz (E-7): Cant remember
Guillotina (E-7): Town
Random Nurse (E-7): Spewed town from Gamma

Do you think the way Roden pushed Hu Tao was just scum bussing?

No, i just cant let go of the fact they tried to make me CC on day 1. I will never forget it.

I understand that but they did exactly that in a past town game.

I dont care. Maybe you guys let people get away with that instead of policying the slot so they stop, but i dont. If Hu is town and we reach lylo we already lost this game because i cant forget that.

I actually think we always lim Hu Tao the day before ELo unless we have a guilty on someone else or something

You just lost town status from me

Maybe I was rash to townbin you then

I won't let you bully me into having a read.

[Guillotina]

Hmm I dont think we are ever going to agree of this specific mech talk.

The optimal play today is we yeet outside claims and hope scum resolves us tonight.