BooneyToonz XVIII: Lights, Faeries, Action! [END]

Sakura Hana · Post Post #97 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:09 pm

VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #100 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:10 pm

In post 89, Hu Tao wrote: Trying to find townreads is tougher than I thought

Let me help you, I'm town.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #112 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:20 pm

In post 102, Alianna wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
What's the difference between that and voting in the early pages of a normal game? Majority still has to agree on it.
You could even argue it's less risky than in a normal game because the probabilities are inverted.

Hmm, maybe the other game i played that kind of thing only came into play later on to begin with so i didnt have to deal with an RVS where it's good to be eliminated.

Maybe i still have that game in the back of my head

Sakura Hana · Post Post #116 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:22 pm

In post 102, Alianna wrote: You could even argue it's less risky than in a normal game because the probabilities are inverted.

This is a pretty good point tho.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:23 pm

In post 115, Gamma Emerald wrote: I was once scum in a game likr thus btw

The only game "like this" i've played is the one you linked, and even then it only was "like this" for like the other half of the game.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #123 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:25 pm

In post 86, Alianna wrote: Self-votes also don't count.

Also i guess i missed this. Well at least that's better i guess.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #125 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:28 pm

In post 120, Aureal wrote:
In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
That seems like looking town to you? Dissuading town from townreading other town is what scum need to do here - all we have to do is form a correct townbloc of three to win, we don't even need to figure out exactly who the scum are.

I'm assuming scum can't change the enlightenment level via night action, anyway. Even if I'm struggling to think of what exactly their night actions might be.

Wait does that mean i get to be lazy?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #168 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:32 am

VOTE: Something Cool

Sakura Hana · Post Post #172 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:21 am

In post 169, Something Cool wrote:
you should vote Alianna now.

why?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #196 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:14 am

In post 173, Something Cool wrote:
In post 172, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 169, Something Cool wrote:
you should vote Alianna now.

why?

Well, why are you voting us?

Because i think you're town

In post 184, Hu Tao wrote: I forgot about Sakura. But I'll give them more time. I think I remember them being obvious town one game. Unless I'm thinking of someone else.

We've played one game together and i dont remember being obvtown that game... although i died N1, so it's not like i had any time to become obvtown.
That being said, im pretty sure my fame as a scum player will prevent me from being obvtown moving forward anyway so im probably not gonna care if im enlightened or not.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #201 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 am

i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Sakura Hana · Post Post #204 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:46 am

In post 202, Night Lights wrote:
In post 201, Sakura Hana wrote: i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Who scumreads SC?

I thought i read something about them being scumread.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #207 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 am

In post 205, Hu Tao wrote: But still willing to give you time here

Thanks, although i'm not gonna tryhard this game, as i dont really need to obvtown here, and im too exhausted from the stress and tryharding i did on Toriel's Patience just to be scumread right out of the gate in here to even bother try harding again.
At least i dont really need to care since as someone pointed out, all we need is 3 correct TRs to win, so all you will ever need from me is my vote.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #212 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:09 am

VOTE: Hu Tao

Sakura Hana · Post Post #218 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:25 am

In post 216, Night Lights wrote: But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting

I am sorting, i have two townreads. I'm not try harding and being lazy tho. Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #220 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:33 am

In post 219, Night Lights wrote:
In post 218, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 216, Night Lights wrote: But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting
I am sorting, i have two townreads. I'm not try harding and being lazy tho. Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

Who is your other townread besides SC? And why do you not think you'll be enlightened?

Hu Tao, Because im not gonna try hard and be lazy this game. As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #221 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:34 am

For someone who was giving me crap about not... you know, reading who was scumreading SC, you certainly arent bothering to read my latest vote.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #296 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:10 am

This game scum doesn't have NKs and there's PRs no? That makes it even easier than Toriel's Patience to win imo.
It's harder for scum to become a "consensus town read" than it is for town, much less for ALL scum to become consensus townreads.
I have no doubt that i could do nothing but vote my townreads all game and still win even if the entire playerlist scumreads me.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #300 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:13 am

In post 298, Something Cool wrote: There's PRs

that's what i said, maybe you misread.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #333 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:03 pm

I don't

Sakura Hana · Post Post #349 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:54 pm

VOTE: Something Cool

Sakura Hana · Post Post #352 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:22 pm

In post 351, Doctor Drew wrote: Plus isn't a quick D1 almost always best for scum anyways?

It is

Sakura Hana · Post Post #355 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:24 pm

Imagine if the scumteam is Hu Tao+Kitty.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #383 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:57 pm

Boring...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #391 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:09 pm

Btw i'm not sure how viable this is, but remember it's plurality vote, so we can run out the deadline and still achieve what we want, earning more discussion time.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #400 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:47 pm

Funny, last 2 times i've been lock towned i've been scum.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #410 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm

In post 409, Something Cool wrote: I'll begrudgingly accept this as a "I TR SC", though I still 100% don't agree to be spared today.

I've townread you for a while, i just stopped townreading Hu Tao.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #416 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm

In post 414, Alianna wrote:
In post 410, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 409, Something Cool wrote: I'll begrudgingly accept this as a "I TR SC", though I still 100% don't agree to be spared today.
I've townread you for a while, i just stopped townreading Hu Tao.
Why do you townread SC?

Gut? Idk, doesnt feel like scumposting.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #418 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm

I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

Sakura Hana · Post Post #420 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:15 pm

In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote: I will be honest, don't like people lock towning Alianna(unless we are making jokes about her sig lol).

You know, i didnt notice that sig.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #421 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:16 pm

VOTE: Drew
I feel like the path to victory here is to do the opposite of what Hu Tao wants.
So since hu tao says im scum with drew then ill vote drew.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #424 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm

In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

I don't like this post

What else is new.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #429 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

In post 426, Night Lights wrote:
In post 424, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 423, Night Lights wrote:
In post 418, Sakura Hana wrote: I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

I don't like this post

What else is new.

You actually had a couple that I liked before this

Damn, i need to up my scumposting then.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #445 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:36 pm

In post 434, Alianna wrote: The last few posts give the vibe that she could be scum who just gave up and decided to troll though.

...
You know.
Im just gonna post votes or unvotes from now on.
Im tired, i do something i get scumread, i dont do something i get scumread, i even get hell for trying to enjoy a game that's already boring me.
Just do whatever the heck you want.
I'm done.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #452 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:49 pm

In post 450, Night Lights wrote: It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do.

I dont think there's

anyone

that is never bothered by scumreads.

In post 450, Night Lights wrote: I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

It doesn't really. It's like a bunch of bottled emotions.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #461 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:00 pm

In post 455, Night Lights wrote: I really hope you know this is just a game and I'm not personally attacking you by thinking you could be scum.

I know, you're either town legit scumreading me or scum doing it's job but.
I literally came here and i get scumread, im like "ok fine, after snowing so many people on my last 2 scum games it's expected anyway"
then a bunch of other people start scumreading me and im like "well if im gonna be scumread no matter what i do i might as well just troll a bit to at least enjoy a game that's gonna be autowin"
And then i get scumread for trolling as well so im like "why am i even playing this game"

Sakura Hana · Post Post #473 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:16 pm

In post 468, Night Lights wrote:
In post 461, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 455, Night Lights wrote: I really hope you know this is just a game and I'm not personally attacking you by thinking you could be scum.
I know, you're either town legit scumreading me or scum doing it's job but.
I literally came here and i get scumread, im like "ok fine, after snowing so many people on my last 2 scum games it's expected anyway"
then a bunch of other people start scumreading me and im like "well if im gonna be scumread no matter what i do i might as well just troll a bit to at least enjoy a game that's gonna be autowin"
And then i get scumread for trolling as well so im like "why am i even playing this game"

I get it

Fwiw I think this sorta feels like townie frustration because I can relate to it, but I've been burned by AtE before so I'm not willing to commit to that read yet

I wasnt expecting you to commit to it. You don't even need to, just need to find 3 townies and we're done here.
Anyway, rant's over, im going to do what i said what i was gonna do and only post votes and unvotes from here on out since that's all you guys need from me anyway.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #474 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:17 pm

Oh right... plurality, so dont even need my vote either.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #480 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:20 pm

In post 478, KittyTacky wrote: You didn't read the setup before signing up?

(to be fair I skimmed it at first and then forgot half of it by the time the game filled)

Considering i didnt realize self-voting didnt count you can tell how much of the setup i read.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #482 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:22 pm

But for the record all i knew is it involved a jester scumteam and jesters would win when they are eliminated.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #488 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:37 pm

In post 486, Something Cool wrote:
In post 450, Night Lights wrote:
445 feels like a stark contrast from some of the things Sakura was saying earlier. It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do. I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote: That being said, im pretty sure my fame as a scum player will prevent me from being obvtown moving forward anyway so im probably not gonna care if im enlightened or not.

In post 218, Sakura Hana wrote: Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

In post 220, Sakura Hana wrote: As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

I have in fact read this but I do think her behavior is consistent. Yes her words said "I don't care", but her tone said "I'm too tired annoyed for this, I hate being scumread".

You know, it's almost scary how accurate that is.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #494 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:50 pm

In post 492, Something Cool wrote:
In post 488, Sakura Hana wrote: You know, it's almost scary how accurate that is.

Well I'm pretty good at reading people's non-mafia related emotions and thoughts. I just wish I was good at reading people's alignments :p

Well, "hating being scumread" is a mafia related emotion and thought

Sakura Hana · Post Post #498 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:55 pm

Yeah i'm pretty sure the person that's saying that me trying to enjoy a game is me being scum and giving up

Sakura Hana · Post Post #499 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:56 pm

In post 498, Sakura Hana wrote: Yeah i'm pretty sure the person that's saying that me trying to enjoy a game is me being scum and giving up, is town

FTFM
And... maybe i should just shut up.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #503 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:02 pm

In post 501, Something Cool wrote:
In post 498, Sakura Hana wrote: Yeah i'm pretty sure the person that's saying that me trying to enjoy a game is me being scum and giving up, is town

You mean Black?

And unfortunately I cannot tell if you are sarcastic or just bitter.

I meant Alianna

Sakura Hana · Post Post #505 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:03 pm

In post 504, Something Cool wrote:
In post 500, Night Lights wrote:

Yes it's just the American slang version

Thanks for the explanation hun

Pedit: and were you sarcastic or just bitter?

Sarcastic

Sakura Hana · Post Post #506 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:03 pm

I guess it could be both, i dont know.
When i'm like this i just see everyone as an enemy.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #509 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:06 pm

In post 507, Something Cool wrote:
Sell me on why Alianna is scum.

I'm willing to listen.

If i knew how to sell you on Alianna scum i would've done so already, i'm not even convinced myself how you expect me to convince you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #513 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:10 pm

In post 511, Something Cool wrote: Pedit: okay don't sell me the read, just like tell me how the read developed and point me to the posts that resulted in that development.

They talked about me or posts about me a bunch, and only time they mention a read on me is "looks like scum giving up".

Sakura Hana · Post Post #524 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:20 pm

sigh

I'm just gonna go and sit in a corner while you guys win the game for me i guess. Don't ask me for anymore explanations i wont give them, since clearly i just get ignored.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #526 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:22 pm

In post 525, Night Lights wrote:
In post 524, Sakura Hana wrote:
sigh

I'm just gonna go and sit in a corner while you guys win the game for me i guess. Don't ask me for anymore explanations i wont give them, since clearly i just get ignored.

Yo can you please chill with the AtE? It's fine if you don't feel like playing or whatever but it makes it pretty hard to read you

It looks to me like you already read me, so you dont need to.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #528 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:24 pm

Of course unless you think it's fun to be asked for an explanation i crack my head to figure out where the source of my gut read is and post it and then get completely ignored while im still globally scumread?
Like, why should i care at this point. Give me a reason, nothing i do is making people reverse the scumreads, nothing i do is helping people solve, so i might as well do nothing since it will have the same result and i put less effort.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #529 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm

You know what, that's exactly right, what am i even doing here anyway.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1011 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:38 pm

Mafia is weird

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1016 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:42 pm

I still dont understand how i went from being scumread by basically everyone to "Sakura was pretty townie" after I get replaced. Like my replace out was 100% NAI (I wasnt having fun with the game and felt like nothing i did mattered).

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1021 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:50 pm

In post 1020, Something Cool wrote:
In post 1016, Sakura Hana wrote: I still dont understand how i went from being scumread by basically everyone to "Sakura was pretty townie" after I get replaced. Like my replace out was 100% NAI (I wasnt having fun with the game and felt like nothing i did mattered).

TBH it was Roden who was townie + your interaction with Alianna seemed unaligned (you said "why is the person who's scumreading me for trying to have fun this game town exactly?" IIRC)

Idk, i remember someone saying that Roden was "just there" but was town because i was townie or something, maybe i dreamed it coz i cant find it.
As for the later... Well that's just me reacting like how i would as town, nothing else. (tbh i never expected my own partner to distance in that way, but it helped create a more convincing distancing i guess)

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1022 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:51 pm

Oh well, if it was just Roden being townie i feel better.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1028 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:07 pm

In post 1024, Something Cool wrote:
Nice avatar btw, Sakura

Thanks

In post 1026, Gamma Emerald wrote: games where you have to vote out town to win just don't gel with me since I get frustrated in regular games when I'm widely scumread but no one seems interested in resolving my alignment

Imagine being scum in 2 such games in a row.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1031 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:20 pm

In post 1029, Alianna wrote: I thought your distancing looked pretty convincing.

I mean, it wasnt pretty hard to figure out how to react to that.
If i wasnt being scumread by literlaly the entire plist, it would've been harder to fake a reaction like that.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1067 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:26 am

In post 1065, Bingle wrote: Ngl, I was pretty shocked you signed up for this.

I was kinda hoping to NOT roll scum again