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[Broccoli Quest 2]

Kyouko, why are you assuming davesaz is disloyal/simple? And that he visited Dunn? Did he claim anything of the sort?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Dave could also check a PR if he's so inclined, but if he's simple that will be a soft result, there will be no way to know if he was blocked or if his target was a PR. I don't think mafia has any goons left so clearing vanillas is a good route if dave is simple

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yes he did claim it, let me grab it

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Thanks Broccoli.

If Enchant is scum then the other scum already knows this, and if not then it's pretty useless aside from giving scum an impossible POE.
I'm a Town Neighborizer. I neighborized Enchant, hoping for good side discussion. Basically nothing said in the hood. Combined with their posting today I think we have a scum lim coming, as I would have expected town!Enchant to talk my ears off.

My n1 target of Dunn didn't work. I know why not, and that info doesn't help town right now (it's something useless we basically already know that was confirmed). Keeping it quiet could be crucial for tomorrow or it could be inconsequential, so I'd like to play the odds and hope for crucial. If scum decide to kill me over a conf (yeah right but jic) then at least you'll be able to interpret that result.

I'd kinda like to look for a scum PR instead of the goon that I think Enchant would flip, but it's almost torture to not lim at this point. I have no idea of the count and want to allow for coordination if desired, but consider this intent.

Here he says he targeted Dunn and it didn't work, but he doesn't know why. By saying he doesn't know why, it implies he thinks it could be something other than the Alien. By saying keeping it quiet could be crucial or inconsequential it implies something about his own role - otherwise it could never give crucial information to town!dave. I think dave is thinking it's possible he either failed because he's simple and Dunn has a PR (Miller or scum PR), or he's Disloyal and Dunn is town

[ssbm_Kyouko]

It's also critical to know if dave is simple or disloyal because if disloyal we can plan night actions much better because scum are not multitasking. Most likely he's simple because Dave has also been saying he thinks Enchant will flip as goon specifically, not as PR

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Organizing VTs from towniest to scummiest imo

BQ2
Hu Tao
--null line--
Elements
Enchant
Timmer

Enchant moves above BQ2 to the very top if Dave claims he is simple - I don't think there are 2 goons, I think the last 2 scum are some kind of interference role and a Traffic Analyst

I want to lim Timmer toDay unless Dave is disloyal, and I want dave to check amongst {BQ2, Hu Tao, Elements} if town!Timmer and add {Guillo, Kyouko} to the pool of possible checks if scum!Timmer

[ssbm_Kyouko]

if dave is disloyal we leash RN to dave and dave checks whoever he wants

[davesaz]

I said I do know why Dunn failed. Simple is the modifier.

[Hu Tao]

Okay enchant is probably town then. I can confirm that when I was a neighbor in another game, enchant said nothing in the neighborhood when he was town too. So I believe him when he says he wouldn't talk.

[Enchant]

Now your being angry when i offered to trade roles in hood makes much sense really.

[Enchant]

Okay enchant is probably town then. I can confirm that when I was a neighbor in another game, enchant said nothing in the neighborhood when he was town too. So I believe him when he says he wouldn't talk.

That's untrue, i mocked genshin impact in that game

[Elements]

VOTE: timmer

[Hu Tao]

I'm already confirmed vanilla by Cele, so I don't think I should be checked by Dave right? Dave should try to neighbor Elements.

[Hu Tao]

Okay enchant is probably town then. I can confirm that when I was a neighbor in another game, enchant said nothing in the neighborhood when he was town too. So I believe him when he says he wouldn't talk.

That's untrue, i mocked genshin impact in that game

[Hu Tao]

Enchant is a secret genshin player. He knows so much about the game

[Hu Tao]

So who should check who so we are all clear and everyone should confirm

[Enchant]

Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.

[Enchant]

Enchant is a secret genshin player. He knows so much about the game

Unforgivable

[davesaz]

So the plan needs to be RN bodyguards me, I try to bring a VT claim into the hood. If it doesn't succeed we have a

guilty

liar who's probably guilty. If I die then RN's role is probably a lie, though another blocking role can't be ruled out on the mafia side.

[Hu Tao]

Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.

Look how many pr there are. No way there is another goon

[Enchant]

Should i really fight theory which grants me town council sit?

Probably not. But i still find it silly.

[davesaz]

Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.

When you didn't talk for hours, expecting two goons was the reason I was ready to vote you.
I don't remember who is pushing hardest on the theory there should be all mafia PRs left.
The alien is really strong, landing on it with a sitter was an enormous stroke of luck, and some of the town roles are weakened by modifiers making them less than full roles.

[davesaz]

Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.

Look how many pr there are. No way there is another goon

This makes me want to SR you again.

[Hu Tao]

Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.

Look how many pr there are. No way there is another goon

This makes me want to SR you again.

L + Ratio

[Enchant]

It was in reverse.

Alien died D2 from being voted.
Goon died N1.