Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Bellaphant]

I'll give her til my bedtime.

De is right I think?

[Bellaphant]

My page top stats looking epic

[usesPython]

I was thinking Kyouko would never choose to check me when she can read me fine without a check, but since the n0 is random that isn’t a valid point

This is why Titus claiming cop here would be a scumclaim

what? I literally said that it isn’t since the n0 is random

You're not getting it; if the n0 is random then kyoko announcing you as her n0 after the Gamma/Python fight means that her n0 is almost certainly a read

[Theta Alpine]

I was thinking Kyouko would never choose to check me when she can read me fine without a check, but since the n0 is random that isn’t a valid point

This is why Titus claiming cop here would be a scumclaim

there is always a chance that someone rolls a n0 they can read well normally
though i would think titus does more if they were cop

also ack
we now have two people with intent to hammer stated

[usesPython]

I was thinking Kyouko would never choose to check me when she can read me fine without a check, but since the n0 is random that isn’t a valid point

This is why Titus claiming cop here would be a scumclaim

there is always a chance that someone rolls a n0 they can read well normally
though i would think titus does more if they were cop

also ack
we now have two people with intent to hammer stated

Chances of any given VT being a cops n0 is 1/12, in practice most of the time you're not gonna be lucky enough to have your n0 line up with someone who's town that has been given an opportunity to be visibly sorted and that you can also read well normally

[Hu Tao]

Uhhh, no?

We explictly DON'T hammer cop claims

That's like the whole point of claiming

If she claims cop we just treat her as flipped scum until the real cop claims, or if no real cop claims until day before ELo then I guess she's the real cop.

We hammer

[Bellaphant]

@python, are you sure? Like, I feel okayish at reading half of this playlist? And then getting a result on someone you can't read is surely better?

[usesPython]

@python, are you sure? Like, I feel okayish at reading half of this playlist? And then getting a result on someone you can't read is surely better?

Getting a n0 on someone you can't read is good in the sense that you get an extra person in the towncore but bad in the sense that you can't just pass it off as a read meaning your n0 sticks out in the sea of people dropping a n0 on visible consensus townreads and you get shot

[Theta Alpine]

I was thinking Kyouko would never choose to check me when she can read me fine without a check, but since the n0 is random that isn’t a valid point

This is why Titus claiming cop here would be a scumclaim

there is always a chance that someone rolls a n0 they can read well normally
though i would think titus does more if they were cop

also ack
we now have two people with intent to hammer stated

Chances of any given VT being a cops n0 is 1/12, in practice most of the time you're not gonna be lucky enough to have your n0 line up with someone who's town that has been given an opportunity to be visibly sorted and that you can also read well normally

this

this is not the percentage you care about though
the percentage you care about is the chances of it being on someone you can read well
then just wait until you have a good opportunity to town read them and drop the n0 inno at that point

[Aristeia]

Spoiler: Firebringer Read

Here are some thoughts for all of you to process:

I have voted out Titus in like my last 2-3 games with her.
Recent one I was scum.
She even referenced this early as she joined and that she wouldn't let me get away with mislimming her again.

Yet, she has done zero sorting me. Even though been voting her all day. Made posts about her being scum. Etc.

So you want to tell me she is both town, and does zero sorting me even though I recently mislimmed her when she was town and i was scum?
Doesn't care what alignment I am?

Ignores my constant pushing.
Comes back and does random pushes on Hua Tao or w/e is latest posts going on to comment on.

I feel like I should be a big elephant in the room for Titus to sort and solve, but 0 effort. Even though I don't think I have moved my vote at all from her since she has joined this game.

Put yourself in her shoes for one minute and pretend I just mislimmed you when i was scum. We are in this game and I am calling you to be elimmed, I make posts about you. Do you comment on anything I say? do you have a stance on me?

What do you do?

Tell me.

There this is best case I am going to make on Titus right now.

this is pretty compelling

[usesPython]

I was thinking Kyouko would never choose to check me when she can read me fine without a check, but since the n0 is random that isn’t a valid point

This is why Titus claiming cop here would be a scumclaim

there is always a chance that someone rolls a n0 they can read well normally
though i would think titus does more if they were cop

also ack
we now have two people with intent to hammer stated

Chances of any given VT being a cops n0 is 1/12, in practice most of the time you're not gonna be lucky enough to have your n0 line up with someone who's town that has been given an opportunity to be visibly sorted and that you can also read well normally

this

this is not the percentage you care about though
the percentage you care about is the chances of it being on someone you can read well
then just wait until you have a good opportunity to town read them and drop the n0 inno at that point

We're gonna shelf this argument until later cause we're starting to realise most of this PL doesn't know how to seer hunt well and at this point we're doing scums job for them

[usesPython]

Will say that with a more experienced playerlist your mech would be absolutely correct though

[Gamma Emerald]

[Doctor Drew]

Spoiler: Firebringer Read

Here are some thoughts for all of you to process:

I have voted out Titus in like my last 2-3 games with her.
Recent one I was scum.
She even referenced this early as she joined and that she wouldn't let me get away with mislimming her again.

Yet, she has done zero sorting me. Even though been voting her all day. Made posts about her being scum. Etc.

So you want to tell me she is both town, and does zero sorting me even though I recently mislimmed her when she was town and i was scum?
Doesn't care what alignment I am?

Ignores my constant pushing.
Comes back and does random pushes on Hua Tao or w/e is latest posts going on to comment on.

I feel like I should be a big elephant in the room for Titus to sort and solve, but 0 effort. Even though I don't think I have moved my vote at all from her since she has joined this game.

Put yourself in her shoes for one minute and pretend I just mislimmed you when i was scum. We are in this game and I am calling you to be elimmed, I make posts about you. Do you comment on anything I say? do you have a stance on me?

What do you do?

Tell me.

There this is best case I am going to make on Titus right now.

this is pretty compelling

Eh, not being as tired and ornery that I was last night, I guess I can see a case on Titus.

Really is just vanity for me to say lol, but I am fine with her lim here.

[Naerys]

[usesPython]

[Gamma Emerald]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

[usesPython]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

Inexperienced as in this is the first time half the people here have ever done mass cop hypoing

[Doctor Drew]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

Inexperienced as in this is the first time half the people here have ever done mass cop hypoing

Python vs The N00bs

[Naerys]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

I am just looking at you

[Naerys]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

Inexperienced as in this is the first time half the people here have ever done mass cop hypoing

Python vs The N00bs

[Aristeia]

i thought the point of mass hypoing d1 was to just random.org it because if you use your own judgement it can give the mafia information

[usesPython]

tf is that supposed to mean
I reacted like that because uP calling the entire game “inexperienced” is W I L D

Inexperienced as in this is the first time half the people here have ever done mass cop hypoing

Python vs The N00bs

Really sad we didn't roll scum this game; pretty sure we could have nailed the cop by n2, maybe n3 at the latest

[davesaz]

I believe there are suggestions on how to do it in the opening posts.

[usesPython]

i thought the point of mass hypoing d1 was to just random.org it because if you use your own judgement it can give the mafia information

unironically probably would have been better than how this d1 turned out