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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:18 pm

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I hate making scum cases because they always feel like a crapshoot at best
I feel like Kawaii could pretty viably be town even despite me feeling off about them and my PoE being small

I feel much more comfortable towncasing someone like Neko and feeling like I'm probably just right
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:18 pm

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In post 745, Klick wrote:
In post 741, Black wrote:
In post 740, NekoLover wrote:
In post 738, Black wrote: "Resetting reads to neutral" doesn't really feel like something I would be able to do as town. Even without prior knowledge of playstyles or anything, there are just going to be people you should find less or more likely to be scum/town
Not at all, 90% of this day 1 is just "They acted like this in this scum game" and at this point I legitimately have no reads on anyone because most of it relies on knowing each others playstyle and metaing the shit outta them
I can see where you're coming from
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I'm doing Neko next, and atm I'm very much back in 'Neko is obvtown' camp
But I don't know how effectively I can put the read into words

It would help quite a bit if I could dialogue it with you if you're around for a bit
Driving home from work at the moment
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:19 pm

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maybe i should just let klick write my posts for me
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:19 pm

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@Black: That's alright I did a post on it anyway, it's a decent start. Fine to hash it out in more detail when you're around
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:20 pm

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cases are for convincing people of a gut scum read, they aren't actually the reasons for a scum read
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:22 pm

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In post 754, Dannflor wrote: cases are for convincing people of a gut scum read, they aren't actually the reasons for a scum read
This is exactly why 1) I rarely make cases and 2) I'm more likely to read a case to get a read on the player writing it than for its intended purpose :P
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:30 pm

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Dann how do you read FakeGod atm
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:33 pm

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Hey Skygazer, could you unlock the Mafia PT for Newbie 2127? :P
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:35 pm

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I want to lean towards town just because like, he's kind of playing to lose if he's scum?

not pushing any counter wagons,

devotes his time to a random town case on Black

seems generally stubborn and self-righteous

idk I've misread those types of qualities before as scum I suppose but it doesn't *feel* right to me.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:35 pm

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In post 754, Dannflor wrote: cases are for convincing people of a gut scum read, they aren't actually the reasons for a scum read
Ding! Ding! Ding!
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:36 pm

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it's also like pretty devastating to lose scum D1 in most variations of this setup so i'd be expecting him to be a bit more survivalistic i suppose

granted now that I've said that it's not really a great metric to read people by
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:38 pm

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also there's no one ( i guess besides me now ) that is outright defending fakegod

it feels like he's a miselim but also one scum might not necessarily want to get their hands dirty with?

i just ctrl + f'd fakegod in Kawaii's ISO and kawaii has like... a very very soft town read on the slot, maybe? it feels yucky to me
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:39 pm

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Time to play my favorite minigame

Claptastik, why are you town? What's the difference here that means you're town and not scum that I should be seeing? I don't think this game is THAT different from Newbie 2127 for you from a surface glance.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:44 pm

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In post 758, Dannflor wrote: I want to lean towards town just because like, he's kind of playing to lose if he's scum?

not pushing any counter wagons,

devotes his time to a random town case on Black

seems generally stubborn and self-righteous

idk I've misread those types of qualities before as scum I suppose but it doesn't *feel* right to me.
I get what you're saying

There is the question of 'what is scum!FakeGod trying to accomplish atm'

My running theory for that was 'get me eliminated' but there's not exactly a clear long term plan after that happens

There's also the possibility that scum!FakeGod just overestimates their position here and thinks they're not in too much trouble

I get frustrated if FakeGod is town because I feel like I'm left with extraordinarily few options
But maybe Kawaii is the more reliable vote for today
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:45 pm

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ig i think claptastik/kawaii is the solve rnow in my heart of hearts
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:47 pm

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I don't think Clap and FakeGod are that likely as partners to each other
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:47 pm

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VOTE: KawaiiKame
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

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I read the last two pages quickly (it's like 2 AM here now)

I am locking Klick and Dann as town

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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

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Goodnight sleepy dragon
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:55 pm

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Let me know when you're back Black, I want to get on the same page with you on a few things
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:04 pm

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I'm home now but I'm running a fever so I don't feel like reading the wall posts

I'm willing to admit I could be wrong about Neko and I also wouldn't mind fading kawaii today
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:05 pm

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In post 757, Klick wrote: Hey Skygazer, could you unlock the Mafia PT for Newbie 2127? :P
i don't really want to for a few different reasons

i don't think it would really be helpful for solving clap tho
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:06 pm

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I want to know what Neko thinks about kawaii before we end the day
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:07 pm

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where is kawaii at vote wise? i like klick's comparison to monkey business
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:07 pm

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Kawaii is e-2 I think

@klick is there anything specific you want to talk about
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