Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Aristeia]

He's scum for TMI'ing a flip and setting up a chain miselim

how do you know titus is a mislim

I don't know

I am guessing based on Fire's posts

that does not sound like what you're saying at all rofl

[Theta Alpine]

i would point out that yes was already on the wagon and was not the hammering vote

but naerys hammered unintentionally anyways so

[Firebringer]

i haven't even counted the votes myself so everyone could be lying to me about there even being a hammer.

[Aristeia]

mb we should lim dragon instead if hes tmi-ing that titus is town and she's still alive

[Naerys]

i would point out that yes was already on the wagon and was not the hammering vote

but naerys hammered unintentionally anyways so

I didnt, gamma left the wagon to vote me

[DragonEater70]

He's scum for TMI'ing a flip and setting up a chain miselim

how do you know titus is a mislim

I don't know

I am guessing based on Fire's posts

that does not sound like what you're saying at all rofl

Then you are misreading my tone

My initial stance was that it feels like this is what Fire could be doing

The post you quoted is ne explaining that stance, from the assumption that it is correct

[Theta Alpine]

i mean

i might have miscounted in which case titus is still alive

[Firebringer]

if titus is alive can yall switch to dragoneater? I feel like this last page should be evidence enough for yall

[Aristeia]

UNVOTE:

[Aristeia]

I'm gonna need to see a vote count

[DragonEater70]

mb we should lim dragon instead if hes tmi-ing that titus is town and she's still alive

I am not TMI'ing anything

I pretty explicitly said that it sounds, from Fire's posts, like he's scum TMI'ing Titus. The only reason I have to think Titus is town, is Fire's posts.

[Firebringer]

look at interaction with Ari just now.
Dragoneater has been saying ari is scum too, but look at approach to her. Trying to reason with ur scumread like that isn't townie.

Or maybe dragoneater changed ari to town, maybe ill go double check before i just start throwing accusations.

[Theta Alpine]

i did in fact miscount
hmm

i am gonna stare at dragon v firebringer a bit and ponder if i should continue with hammering titus or if another wagon is better with that fakehammer having yielded interesting results

[Aristeia]

oh yea he said we're mafia together and here he is trying to reason with me good catch

VOTE: dragoneater

[Firebringer]

last stance i see on ari from dragon was she was scum with me so lol, dragon shouldn't this be more proof of that?

[DragonEater70]

look at interaction with Ari just now.
Dragoneater has been saying ari is scum too, but look at approach to her. Trying to reason with ur scumread like that isn't townie.

Or maybe dragoneater changed ari to town, maybe ill go double check before i just start throwing accusations.

I said Ari was scum a while ago? In my last readlist she was town but labeled as "I could change my read any moment"

This is fake news

[DragonEater70]

Yeah you should go check first

[Firebringer]

Whats ur stance on ari and how did it change.

[DragonEater70]

Okay here's my reads from most likely to be correct to least likely to be correct (NOT from towniest to scummiest):

Confident:

Meuh

- N0 inno, deep in town meta, I just don't think scum Meuh posts half of what Meuh posted this game (not an attempt to insult Meuh's capabilities as scum). This is very obvious town and I will eat my hat if I'm wrong.

Gamma

- yeah.

Python

- yeah.

Probably correct:

Firebringer

- I feel like they are actually pretty sincere about their thought process in a way that scum!fire probably wouldn't be? I may be completely wrong on that but I do think I am *probably* correct.

davesaz

- I have correctly identified him as scum by tonereading him in two different past games, and he definitely doesn't have the same tone here, so it's pretty likely he's not scum.

furtive

- I was scumreading here earlier, I still feel slightly concerned since furtive is not being the same solvey energy to the table as in Love Child, but I don't actually see anything scum indicative from this slot and I do think some of his posts sound pretty innocent so I think this is probably town.

gob

- I didn't really put a lot of thought into this read.

My read here could change any moment:

yessiree

- Idk I still think he's ooenwolfing but I also saw some towny posts by him so maybe I am just tunneled.

Ari

- yeah.

RCE

- yeah IDK I guess I could maybe see his thought process as town but right now I think it's scum.

I'm really unconfident about these reads and frankly not sure why I even have them:

Naerys

- Honestly maybe I should scumlean her instead because her behavior toward my slot is kinda sus, but I feel like the posting is par for the cpurse for Naerys?

Titus

- just sheeping Meuh and Hu Tao

Black

- I don't think I really tried to sort Black this game. Which I guess means I am pocketed? I should probably try to sort her replacement. Could definitely be scum I guess.

I would be lying if I said I had a real read here:

Hu Tao - I don't think she's really done anything AI, though maybe that fact by itself makes me slightly townlean her.

Theta - kinda forgot this slot even existed

Bella - ditto. I guess of I HAD to say I would be townleaning her but I don't really think it would be justified.

[Firebringer]

Yeah you should go check first

I just did. I was 100% right on ur last stance being she is scum with me. Tell me when and where it changed because you didn't post it.

[Firebringer]

Ari are you actually scum

Ari are you actually scum

only if you are

Okay I guess Black was right about Ari/FB solve

VOTE: Ari

Serious vote

[Firebringer]

Notice how both those are after ur reads list.

[Aristeia]

I don't like Ari accusing me of OMGUS and then disappearing

Can we get more votes on her?

I don't like Ari accusing me of OMGUS and then disappearing

Correction: I don't like Ari trying to refute my read on her by boiling it down to OMGUS even though there's more nuance to it (for example, I feel like FB's SR of me makes sense from town Fire), and then disappearing.

Without even addressing the actual substance of the read (that she's shading people with no actual reasons nor any attempt to push them)

he doesnt even remember what his read of me is

fake reads

[DragonEater70]

Whats ur stance on ari and how did it change.

My stance on Ari is her play is very different from her town play in the three town games of her I've properly read (Friends and Enemies, Coalition of Frogs, Swinger's Hall), but I am hesitant to scumread her based off only that, because I think she is exhibiting a thought process and degree of not caring about how she's being perceived which I find towny.

[DragonEater70]

I don't like Ari accusing me of OMGUS and then disappearing

Can we get more votes on her?

I don't like Ari accusing me of OMGUS and then disappearing

Correction: I don't like Ari trying to refute my read on her by boiling it down to OMGUS even though there's more nuance to it (for example, I feel like FB's SR of me makes sense from town Fire), and then disappearing.

Without even addressing the actual substance of the read (that she's shading people with no actual reasons nor any attempt to push them)

he doesnt even remember what his read of me is

fake reads

True

I did in fact forget

If you think that's scum indicative, good for you?