Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Roden]

Celeb still hasn't offered any analysis over what happened

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s just fade Celeb and go on holiday

[Dunnstral]

I don't think the balance works out if Role Cop is our only investigative pwoer, so either Celebloki is that person or there is another town investigative which has not claimed yet

[Hu Tao]

I would agree with that last statement. I think we have time to wait for celeb to respond

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't think the balance works out if Role Cop is our only investigative pwoer, so either Celebloki is that person or there is another town investigative which has not claimed yet

Why do we need multiple investigatives?

[Dunnstral]

I think Role Cop is too weak to be the sole investigative

[Celebloki]

I honestly get lost whenever there's extensive mech talk in any game. I'm not an expert by any means on what proper balance is, so I couldn't offer much with regards to Wiz's claim.

Even though the setup spec, and "let it work itself out at night" is being argued to keep me alive, I tend to agree with FL's sentiment that that sort of thing typically annoys me in games.

All that said, I'd obviously prefer not to be faded.

I still have a desire to give Hu Tao a TR, after my claim and her hard defending me I was curious where that came from. When Dunn made his argument about how roleblockers and JKs work, I started to wonder if Hu Tao's hard defense might mean she was a JK and had maybe targeted me so she understood my 'no result'. With Wiz's claim this is obviously not a thing. I had decided before Wiz's claim that I still didn't support a lim on her because I wasn't sure if she might be a town JK. But the vanilla claim makes me not as reluctant to that.

I'm still not really sure how to read my other defenders or rather "let's leave Celeb alive for another day"-ers. I could see this being strategy for those with TMI, but I obviously have greedy reasons to side with those that argue to keep me alive. I do think Cakez has the weakest arguments of my defenders. I think FL's arguments for my lim make him fairly obv town.

[Thomith]

Yeah, I’m lean towning Hu Tao.

ok so it's NAI then, same as I think your move here is prolly NAI too
why did you change your mind about Hu Tao?

Idk. I need a flip.

I can still see this as scum Tao.

Just cuz i scum read someone doesn’t mean i think they’re scum duh

What?

[Roden]

I still have a desire to give Hu Tao a TR, after my claim and her hard defending me I was curious where that came from. When Dunn made his argument about how roleblockers and JKs work, I started to wonder if Hu Tao's hard defense might mean she was a JK and had maybe targeted me so she understood my 'no result'. With Wiz's claim this is obviously not a thing. I had decided before Wiz's claim that I still didn't support a lim on her because I wasn't sure if she might be a town JK. But the vanilla claim makes me not as reluctant to that.

Why does the vanilla claim make you less reluctant? Do you have reasons to scum read Hu Tao?

[Roden]

I'm still not really sure how to read my other defenders or rather "let's leave Celeb alive for another day"-ers. I could see this being strategy for those with TMI, but I obviously have greedy reasons to side with those that argue to keep me alive. I do think Cakez has the weakest arguments of my defenders. I think FL's arguments for my lim make him fairly obv town.

If you don't know how to read your defenders then why did you go through with a plan that hinged on you being able to do that??

[Roden]

Celebloki (5): Thomith, Flavor Leaf, Naerys, Bingle, Roden

This was your wagon. I technically never ended up on your wagon during a VC but I added myself since I brought you to E-1. Do you think any of these votes come from scum? Does anyone here look opportunistic? Or do you think it could be a pure wagon?

[RCEnigma]

I’m almost 20 pages behind, sorry, holidays +birthdays. Just a bad time to mafia.

I’ll get to it tuesdayish.

[Flavor Leaf]

Really leaning that it’s just Bingle here

[Thomith]

I'm wondering if Bingle/Naerys may have partner equity.

[Thomith]

Naerys repeatedly said she would come online on Day 2, and the reason why she wasn't giving a huge amount of content on Day 1 was because she is bad at Day 1, but most of her posts today have had quite similar vibes as they have done the entire game.


I also feel like Bingle's posts following the Neap claim (specifically 1337 1345 1359) seem to be looking like they are saying a lot, without really saying much.

[Naerys]

Naerys repeatedly said she would come online on Day 2, and the reason why she wasn't giving a huge amount of content on Day 1 was because she is bad at Day 1, but most of her posts today have had quite similar vibes as they have done the entire game.

I also feel like Bingle's posts following the Neap claim (specifically 1337 1345 1359) seem to be looking like they are saying a lot, without really saying much.

I disagree i am putting my 100% effort, i even posted one of my largest posts ever and still some are SR me

[Thomith]

UNVOTE: Cele
I am going to write as i think so sorry if it looks messed up.

Cele should be given a chance to prove his claim. The idea of him clearing FL sounds good - those 2 being scum together feels unlikely, the interactions between them arent giving me vibe of distancing buddies. So either:
-scum!cele will try to paint FL as scum
-scum!cele will try to pocket FL
-town!cele sorts FL

I kinda count on FL being town,i know. I dont see anything that could indicate that he rolled scum in this game, so i hope i am not wrong, lol.
Also few shifts in my reads: Despite me not liking Dunn´s hammer on gob, last few pages he felt pretty towny to me. The way he joined the discussion about Cele´s "No Result" happening indicates that he is actually thinking and not simply going with anything that feels limmable. Scum would continue pressing Celeb in my opinion. Eh, this flow of thoughts gave me few doubts about Flavor(

Note to myself: i need to check this later

)

SirCakez- What do you think of FL,Bingle and Roden? I dont think i saw you expressing your opinion on these players very much.
AWiz still looks scummy to me. Idk i just feel like there is no real effort? Disagree with 1249. Dunn and Cele are not giving me partners vibe. Also idk why Cele claim should be hard to swallow.Feels like a discredit.
Also Hu Tao pointing at me is weird and i dont understand it at all. Could you elaborate on why you SR me?

AWiz+Hu Tao are quite possible scum buddies. As for the last scum, the most likely feels RCE. They feel kinda non-existent. Like...what is RCE reads list, whats he doing?

Actually...VOTE: RCE
Look at their ISO, its just lacking.

I assume this is the post you are talking about?

Why do you think RCE's ISO looks lacking?

[Naerys]

UNVOTE: Cele
I am going to write as i think so sorry if it looks messed up.

Cele should be given a chance to prove his claim. The idea of him clearing FL sounds good - those 2 being scum together feels unlikely, the interactions between them arent giving me vibe of distancing buddies. So either:
-scum!cele will try to paint FL as scum
-scum!cele will try to pocket FL
-town!cele sorts FL

I kinda count on FL being town,i know. I dont see anything that could indicate that he rolled scum in this game, so i hope i am not wrong, lol.
Also few shifts in my reads: Despite me not liking Dunn´s hammer on gob, last few pages he felt pretty towny to me. The way he joined the discussion about Cele´s "No Result" happening indicates that he is actually thinking and not simply going with anything that feels limmable. Scum would continue pressing Celeb in my opinion. Eh, this flow of thoughts gave me few doubts about Flavor(

Note to myself: i need to check this later

)

SirCakez- What do you think of FL,Bingle and Roden? I dont think i saw you expressing your opinion on these players very much.
AWiz still looks scummy to me. Idk i just feel like there is no real effort? Disagree with 1249. Dunn and Cele are not giving me partners vibe. Also idk why Cele claim should be hard to swallow.Feels like a discredit.
Also Hu Tao pointing at me is weird and i dont understand it at all. Could you elaborate on why you SR me?

AWiz+Hu Tao are quite possible scum buddies. As for the last scum, the most likely feels RCE. They feel kinda non-existent. Like...what is RCE reads list, whats he doing?

Actually...VOTE: RCE
Look at their ISO, its just lacking.

This monster becomes not valid since claims happened, Hu still could be scum but idk i feel like effort should be put elsewhere
RCE feels bad, but seems like they lack time to play.
I need to re-evaluate my TR on FL and Thom bcz i feel like something fishy is going on with those wagon changes

[Naerys]

UNVOTE: Cele
I am going to write as i think so sorry if it looks messed up.

Cele should be given a chance to prove his claim. The idea of him clearing FL sounds good - those 2 being scum together feels unlikely, the interactions between them arent giving me vibe of distancing buddies. So either:
-scum!cele will try to paint FL as scum
-scum!cele will try to pocket FL
-town!cele sorts FL

I kinda count on FL being town,i know. I dont see anything that could indicate that he rolled scum in this game, so i hope i am not wrong, lol.
Also few shifts in my reads: Despite me not liking Dunn´s hammer on gob, last few pages he felt pretty towny to me. The way he joined the discussion about Cele´s "No Result" happening indicates that he is actually thinking and not simply going with anything that feels limmable. Scum would continue pressing Celeb in my opinion. Eh, this flow of thoughts gave me few doubts about Flavor(

Note to myself: i need to check this later

)

SirCakez- What do you think of FL,Bingle and Roden? I dont think i saw you expressing your opinion on these players very much.
AWiz still looks scummy to me. Idk i just feel like there is no real effort? Disagree with 1249. Dunn and Cele are not giving me partners vibe. Also idk why Cele claim should be hard to swallow.Feels like a discredit.
Also Hu Tao pointing at me is weird and i dont understand it at all. Could you elaborate on why you SR me?

AWiz+Hu Tao are quite possible scum buddies. As for the last scum, the most likely feels RCE. They feel kinda non-existent. Like...what is RCE reads list, whats he doing?

Actually...VOTE: RCE
Look at their ISO, its just lacking.

I assume this is the post you are talking about?

Why do you think RCE's ISO looks lacking?

Beceause i feel like he hasnt posted much reads, he is giving me vibes of someone who doesnt really wish to solve
I need to go now, family celebration stuff etc

[RCEnigma]

Well I haven’t been here so. Pretty much.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: bingle

[SirCakez]

Who was the Scum being voted though?

Still think it's Hu Tao

And I don't really have a strong take on Roden or Thomith yet so there could easily be a partner there too

I voted you earlier and said that you and Naerys contained one scum; you didn't seem to think much of it.

what are you trying to say here, I'm confused

[SirCakez]

Well I haven’t been here so. Pretty much.

why don't do you do something when you are here?

[RCEnigma]

I’m a full game day behind, when I get caught up with the game I can interact with it. After the holiday season I can give it effort.

If you have something about the day phase I was present that’s fine I can interact with that.

[Naerys]

VOTE: bingle

Why bingle? could you elaborate on this please