Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[Gamma Emerald]

p sure half the votes on me are scum rn

you feel limp

this is BS

[Gamma Emerald]

like, what about my play is "limp", I have been substantially more active than you so that logic feels unfounded.

[Gamma Emerald]

Celebloki - I have a secret tinfoil theory that Celebloki is Informed Town, but I'm not pushing it so that scum doesn't try to kill him to stifle the information.

When it comes to bingle, i dislike this. " I am not pushing it" yeah but writing it instead into RL to which everyone will pay attention to.

Show of hands:

Who all thinks that me saying the IC is fakeclaiming IC as an informed townie is something I would do as anything other than a joke. Cause...

Jokes don't exist on Mafiascum.net

Gamma, I don't think Chell called your entire play limp, just the one post......why so defensive about that?

I interpreted it as a justification of the vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Because you’re upset at me for not seeing that despite openly not reading any of the game

I don't read parts...before I come in. Been my motto for years. You've known that. So why sassy now?

It seemed like you weren’t going to. And why do you even care?

Okay. Address this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Depends on your definition of case

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements
Yeah this can die

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm so sorry Gamma : (

I said I wouldn't but I see people are also voting Bingle and Bingle isn't happening today.

If your whole rationale for voting Gamma is "it's a better CW than Bingle, may I suggest that we form a different wagon? either Nurse, KL, or idk, Drew/Elements?
Or who do you think is scummy?

I don’t really enjoy this post btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Nurse and KL feel like cheap shots tho
It doesn’t feel good that you are making such errant comments when your overall play hasn’t felt in line with that

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay but like, why is KL possible scum for you?

[Gamma Emerald]

?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

If I get deadline mislimmed AGAIN I will be FURIOUS
STOP BEING LAZY!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Chell
KILL THIS. She mis-nuked me in DEFCON and has failed to offer a valid reason to vote me than “trust me”. Anyone believing she’s town over me or following her onto me is playing poorly.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m willing to give a one-day pass, I think the wanton wagoning is anti-town but I expect it to stop D2

[Gamma Emerald]

1.41

Votecount 1.41

Gamma Emerald (4): Chell, Titus, Eiralox, camelCasedSnivy
Elements (3): KittyTacky, Naerys, Bingle
Eiralox (2): Doctor Drew, Organized Khaos
Chell (2): Gamma Emerald, Elements
Titus (1): Elements

Not Voting (1):

Celebloki

, Sleepy Dragon

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-11-16 10:02:20).

@mod: you have elements as voting both Titus and Chell

[Gamma Emerald]

What in the hell
What id the point of making the table?

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re better than this Titus.
I think calling me and Elements teamed is incredibly sloppy.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Chell
KILL THIS. She mis-nuked me in DEFCON and has failed to offer a valid reason to vote me than “trust me”. Anyone believing she’s town over me or following her onto me is playing poorly.

This is straight up flailing at slots defending me.

viewtopic.php?t=91775
You were in this game. You cannot tell me you don’t understand EXACTLY where I’m coming from with this reaction.

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re better than this Titus.
I think calling me and Elements teamed is incredibly sloppy.

No. It's not. You both were willing to vote each other and now you're both sheeping each other like crazy. You've been nothing but hostile. Elements is Lamisting and doing IIoA.

Where the fuck have I sheeped Elements?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah you’re being fucking lazy because I think with minimal exceptions it has been Elements voting after me.

[Gamma Emerald]

The callouts will continue until gameplay improves.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah you’re being fucking lazy because I think with minimal exceptions it has been Elements voting after me.

And you aren't sus of that? He's fine voting you but suddenly jumping everywhere with you, yet I am lazy?

I have mentioned having a problem with it. As said before: I expect it to dissipate D2 and as such am willing to not go after it currently.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Chell
KILL THIS. She mis-nuked me in DEFCON and has failed to offer a valid reason to vote me than “trust me”. Anyone believing she’s town over me or following her onto me is playing poorly.

If she mis-nuked you when she was town, doesn't it follow she will be mis-pushing you when she's town?

The issue is the continued blind tunnel whilst also giving minimal input on other topics. Gob basically did the same thing in 245 for most of the time he was there.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think she’s legitimately trying to read me

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma can you try to work with Chell for 2 minutes and see if you can agree on something? /genq

Sure, but you should probably be asking Chell this question

[Gamma Emerald]

@Chell

this method of reading me is not sustainable. I am trying to avoid reaching the heights I reached back before my mod-enforced break but I feel like if I don’t curb at least some of the bad pushes on me scum will just keep flocking to pushing me.

[Gamma Emerald]

elements will either solve the game or maybe be caught

What is this based on?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Snivy
I’m fine with this. I have not gotten a good impression of him so far.

[Gamma Emerald]

elements will either solve the game or maybe be caught

What is this based on?

agreed
and why does that make you like the gamma more?

same vibe as eiralox: you weren't acting weird when you got pressure and from a skim of your ISO you made votes so it looks like you might actually care

I’m having trouble parsing this

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like seeing what Elements can provide in later day phases. I am not entirely against the wagon but I would rather vote elsewhere unless strictly necessary.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Snivy
I’m fine with this. I have not gotten a good impression of him so far.

i guess this is just because I'm voting you

also re: chell i always have a good chance of going through (id argue less as scum) but I'm not sure about the flipping red thing. you sure?

Not just that
I didn’t like when you echoed KT’s sentiment on Khaios

[Gamma Emerald]

Mine

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: Snivy

Ahhh I wanna do bingle. Can I do Bingle?

VOTE: Bingle

why is bingle scum? I haven't really gotten any bad vibes from that direction

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: elements

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

@Eiralox

You were lower on the totem pole than Chell for bad pushes on me because I feel you haven’t made pushing me your “personality” this game but I do not understand why you are so head-in-the-sand on thinking I’m scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t see myself being awake for deadline fyi

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I’m fucking sure it does. But if you expect your castle to stand strong forever, you may wish to rethink your plans, because I see the tsunami coming and those grains of sand ain’t looking very sturdy.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

Because it's only day one and I'm not the only player in the game. You say storm. I say a pleasant paddle down the creek.

rough water await fool

[Gamma Emerald]

who do you see as possible scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

...

I guess my preferred lim pool for D1 is somewhere in CSS, Khaos, Drew, Naerys, or Chell. Maybe in that order.

From my earlier post, I kinda like any of these 5, maybe add Eira to that since he doesn't seem to want to make a case on anyone besides Gamma. I acknowledge that Khaos is a no info kill, but his response to being prodded and then seemingly bouncing out again is rubbing me the wrong way. Maybe we just elim him, let scum NK me and then you guys can pretend tomorrow is D1 of an 11 person mini or something. Maybe with some fun N0 night actions before it starts.

I honestly don't dislike a fair chunk of that pool
the only real hold-off I have is I want to give Chell some more time to cook

Chell
Naerys
Drew
Khaos
CCS

here's my general willingness to vote those 5 out from least to most willing

[Gamma Emerald]

for me Drew and Khaos are almost interchangeable, I just hate how Khaos dipped

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry the dueling E minus 1 is a pipe dream. Got ninjaed.

Eiralox refuses to play mafia anyway so it was already sunk

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Khaotic Order

For vig yes.

As the D1 kill, not the best play.

I’d prefer a vig kill on Eiralox here

[Gamma Emerald]

Drew + Titus + Celeb + me + Dragon + Chell = 6

[Gamma Emerald]

Determining how close we are to being able to actually be able to vote someone out that isn’t Elements/Bingle

[Gamma Emerald]

fuck

I think the only person that could be reasonably expected to be online before DL is KT and I don’t think KT would be doen for either of CCS or OK

[Gamma Emerald]

I have to confess that the moving of the votes is confusing me

Oh thank god you’re here
Which of CCS/OK are you willing to vote?

Also, MFW I take post 2500 without even trying

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: organized Khaos
Alrighty then

[Gamma Emerald]

i don't like the titus wagon i think keylaga was bleeding town

It's just a waiting game at this point with some basic communication. Khaos, Gamma, Naerys. Feels probable.

Actually Khaos is in your PoE

I stated I'm giving Khaos a break. In me eyes Gamma was the ideal lim anything else even if i5 flips scum I want to wash my hands on

I want an apology when I flip town. You are officially being awful.

[Gamma Emerald]

Until he presents an actual argument, I’ll as personally as I damn well please

[Gamma Emerald]

Until he presents an actual argument, I’ll as personally as I damn well please

You simply wouldn't vote me like that as town in that gamestate at that time. I have other reasons but I'm honestly feeling bad about this push and I'm also disengaging with this game rn

Like what, exactly?

[Gamma Emerald]

And yes it's been nine minutes. I have a life. I can't stay glued to the screen all the time.

You can Explain your vote in your own words. If you don't have time for this then unvote vote me, or don't try to play the game at all.

gross

I don't like the tone of your exchanges with him and others. You sound like desperate scum.

This is not adequate.

VOTE: Eiralox

Yeag this was kinda just a reaction to you driving Naerys to claim her modifier and then engaging with KT in a manner that felt disingenuous

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeag this was kinda just a reaction to you driving Naerys to claim her modifier and then engaging with KT in a manner that felt disingenuous

The tempo the thread was going and the anti-logic from Key you and Naerys were supporting, it felt opportunistic to me.

But honestly let's call it a stalemate and let fate roll the dice.

Mmmm
Why haven’t you been suspicious of Elements sheeping you so much? I brought that up earlier as a concern but wasn’t really interested in reconciling it with you att because *waves hands*

[Gamma Emerald]

Bruh you really are choosing to believe you nailed the scumteam on what us essentially throwing three darts rather than bite the bullet, accept that you got pocketed, and vote Elements out? Like, based on that dichotomy you presented, I deadass don’t see why you’re so against Elements dying. If Elements flips town it confirms the scumteam for you!

[Gamma Emerald]

Bruh you really are choosing to believe you nailed the scumteam on what us essentially throwing three darts rather than bite the bullet, accept that you got pocketed, and vote Elements out? Like, based on that dichotomy you presented, I deadass don’t see why you’re so against Elements dying. If Elements flips town it confirms the scumteam for you!

How about no?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m down for CCS but Dragon doesn’t want it for some reason

[Gamma Emerald]

Eira ccs is not happening in 3 hours.

I am likely vigging whichever of Elements and Khaos doesn't go through.

Yeah I just want a case of camels. I'll probably be online if there's so little time left if there's power. For now I'm out. I think if this is true then it really doesn't matter who gets thrown to the wolves here.

I’m sorry but saying you want a “case of camels” activated my fight-or-flight response (not really because I don’t have that, instead I just fucking freeze)

[Gamma Emerald]

It's 3 fucking AM where I am.

I'm really sorry that was a troll post as in 'i want to smoke a case of camels' next time i should make the joke more obvious

Oh you meant it that way, I thought you tripped into an innuendo

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m still willing and able to vote Elements

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements

[Gamma Emerald]

Bitch I been talking all damn day, fym I’m silent

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: Khaos

I don't like talk of hammers if the folk aren't here. Khaos is the best lim imo but I want to hear from Elements.

WE HAVE 2 HOURS! SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!

[Gamma Emerald]

Do not make me engage the difficulty tweak.

[Gamma Emerald]

WE HAVE 2 HOURS! SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!

On my side I'm okay giving it more time. I love underdog stories someone might make a comeback. If it's all town whatever.

THERE IS NO “GIVINV IT MORE TIME”

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Khaos

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is becoming more of a threat btw.

These votes from Gamma are top tier play

You are actively making this game less fun. I am trying to assist with consolidation. There is nothing more to my voting without these past 12 hours or so.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I don’t buy for a second that you actually respect me at all Eira. You are being absolutely childish.

[Gamma Emerald]

Eiralox is being openly subversive with his voting. He can die for that alone.

[Gamma Emerald]

What? Dont throw your responsibility on me. I cant think for you

fuck it

UNVOTE:

Naerys and Gamma scum

sort the rest out yourselves

Unvoting at this post is explicitly anti-town. Kill this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not now tho obv

[Gamma Emerald]

For the love of GOD vote Elements NOW.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements
We’re making this shit happen, OK showed up so he gets to live

[Gamma Emerald]

What have I missed?

Between Bingle and Elements, who do you think is more scummy?

Bingle.

Khaos, your choice is Elements or death.

THERE ARE TWO HOURS TO DEADLINE

*INHALES*
…one second please.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

If Elements and Khaos are town, flip Titus or Camel

Day two get either Gamma or Naerys, as I said already complex mailman resolves itself so decide how long ya'll want the role in the game.

Do you even know what the phrase “resolves itself” means?

[Gamma Emerald]

I want Eira dead for yanking everyone’s chains this entire EoD. I don’t care one iota what Elements flips. Eiralox has shown a severe lack of empathy for any other player in this game with the shit he pulled today.

[Gamma Emerald]

My mail target was Kitty.

Sure it was.
VOTE: Naerys

[Gamma Emerald]

My mail target was Kitty.

Sure it was.
VOTE: Naerys

is there any reason for this vote

Yes
Naerys was supposed to target Celeb, instead ends up targeting the nightkill? I don’t trust it at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah IDK what she was thinking but that's not a good reason to scumread her

Do you actually think scum!Naerys would fake claim mailman?

Like I'm not saying the claim is clearing, I'm saying she's probably mailman regardless of alignment and she's probably not lying about targeting Kitty and I can't see a scum motivation for her to do so.

It’s hokey as hell. Didn’t Naerys agree that Bingle’s plan was good at one point? Why the fuck did she deviate? I don’t care about whether the claim is real, I care that her claimed action was not what I thought was agreed upon in advance.

[Gamma Emerald]

Naerys is this the correct game? Where did you use CH?

To explain: Sometimes when i played with my friends we were using term "citizen" instead of town
So i thought IC is informed citizen, not Innocent Child.

So you are saying you read the plan wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

Naerys is this the correct game? Where did you use CH?

To explain: Sometimes when i played with my friends we were using term "citizen" instead of town
So i thought IC is informed citizen, not Innocent Child.

So you are saying you read the plan wrong?

I am saying i understood it wrongly, yes.

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I need to think things over for a bit because both Elements and Eiralox flipping town falls outside of my calculations.

[Gamma Emerald]

Looking forward to Chell’s return btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is it correct to say that your read on me is kinda dependent on how I'm reading you

Yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s not 1-to-1 but there is cause and effect

[Gamma Emerald]

sigh