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[Pavowski]

im still pissed that I was (presumably?) wrong about flavor
UNVOTE:

How does this change your reads

see below

Oh I see, DE is scum trying to bait out the real vig
VOTE: DE

well this means at least one scum in DE/Kyouko, which I could have seen already.
I arrive at the following conclusion:
If Kyouko is town then DE/Flavor ig could be w/w? Maybe both Kyo and DE are scum
But I'm going to go out on a limb and VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
prob should vig DE if kyouko flips town

I'm not going to pretend to understand the logic of why this post means Kyo or DE or *both* could be scum, but the more I sit with it the more scum!Dragon makes sense to me

VOTE: Dragon

[HighPrincessErinys]

Pav and Hu Tao

you got it boss, see y'all tomorrow

Pav's ISO has quite a bit of townie energy imo and there's a few standout posts this one particularly likes, such as 335 and 869. In general Pav feels very genuine in alot of his posts and points and this one is happy with putting him down as town. Though this one also finds it weird how you tried to shoot down 870 ngl. 🤔

On the other hand this one has fucking nothing for Hu Tao LMAOOOO. This one couldn't reallllly get anything of note out of reading her ISO and when it took a look at its last games with her, Smuggler's Port and love child, it realized that it just cannot read her well because these ISOs are like all fucking identical. And she was town in SP and scum in LC so like!!! Fuck!!! This one still wants to put her down as a scumlean for her lame pushes on me earlier but that's really about it. Going to look more thoroughly later for sure, though.

[cw357]

im still pissed that I was (presumably?) wrong about flavor
UNVOTE:

How does this change your reads

see below

Oh I see, DE is scum trying to bait out the real vig
VOTE: DE

well this means at least one scum in DE/Kyouko, which I could have seen already.
I arrive at the following conclusion:
If Kyouko is town then DE/Flavor ig could be w/w? Maybe both Kyo and DE are scum
But I'm going to go out on a limb and VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
prob should vig DE if kyouko flips town

I'm not going to pretend to understand the logic of why this post means Kyo or DE or *both* could be scum, but the more I sit with it the more scum!Dragon makes sense to me

VOTE: Dragon

My post was articulated poorly. If Kyouko is town, then DE is necessarily scum I think. But if Kyouko is scum, it doesn't rule out (although I think its unlikely) DE being scum.

If a DE wagon will get more steam that Kyouko I'll support it since Flavor sounds on board with vigging the other? (please correct me @Flavor if this is not the case)
VOTE: DragonEater70

[HighPrincessErinys]

my emotional state just got shot in the face, v/la for the rest of the day bare minimum

[Hu Tao]

I guess I wouldn't hate a pav vote either

I promise I'm not deliberately spamming the thread, but I hate wall posting. Between my last post and some notes I took at the end of d1 when I got home and the thread was locked have me really considering Purple/Dragon as two of the three scum (It would be 3 in a normal, right?). And given they know each other IRL...

scum!Purple / scum!Dragon works
town!Purple / scum!Dragon works
scum!Purple / town!Dragon doesn't work
town!Purple / town!Dragon could work but that means I have to find 3 scum in HPE, Kyouko, Joy, CW, Gera, Hu Tao. Possible? Yes. Likely? Feels like no.

Purple, what's your take on Dragon right now?

I don’t get the relation between the two.

Dragon was goading purple into voting on Day 1, though, and i think purple lack of voting is kinda townie

There's no relation

Pav isn't making sense and is just trying to divert attention elsewhere, IMO

This.

Specifically I don't think Ive said much of anything about Hu or Dragon but this morning I say they could both be scum and suddenly Hu could go for a pav vote and you say I'm diverting and not making sense even though I think my read on you/purple is pretty basic.

So yes, I found these posts funny.

Why am I scum before this?

[Hu Tao]

Night 1’s not my modifier, just wanted to WIFOM scum to have them wonder if I have another shot or not.

You looking scared, DragonEater.

I was 100% making it look like it was you. You been trying to pocket me all game.

VOTE: FL

No way

[Hu Tao]

Hi!

I'm going to sheep Flavor Leaf Day 1 because I am lazy

What does sheep someone mean?

Follow them.
Basically DE70 is not going to have an opinion of his own today and will just do what Flavor does.

Hi!

I'm going to sheep Flavor Leaf Day 1 because I am lazy

What does sheep someone mean?

Follow them.
Basically DE70 is not going to have an opinion of his own today and will just do what Flavor does.

I will have an opinion, I just won't try very hard to push it

I know I was just giving you shit

Damn it Thomith... FBI, really?

How did you even see that? I had to look it over like 5 times to see what you even meant by that

[Hu Tao]

Hi!

I'm going to sheep Flavor Leaf Day 1 because I am lazy

What does sheep someone mean?

Follow them.
Basically DE70 is not going to have an opinion of his own today and will just do what Flavor does.

Hi!

I'm going to sheep Flavor Leaf Day 1 because I am lazy

What does sheep someone mean?

Follow them.
Basically DE70 is not going to have an opinion of his own today and will just do what Flavor does.

I will have an opinion, I just won't try very hard to push it

I know I was just giving you shit

Damn it Thomith... FBI, really?

It's moments like this that make me realize I am not meant for this game

Maybe me too

[Flavor Leaf]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

[Hu Tao]

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

[cw357]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

[Hu Tao]

Kyouko posted the cop soft that Thom did

[Flavor Leaf]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

[Pavowski]

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

Same thing occurred to me but I didn't know if that was the paranoia talking

[Pavowski]

I guess I wouldn't hate a pav vote either

I promise I'm not deliberately spamming the thread, but I hate wall posting. Between my last post and some notes I took at the end of d1 when I got home and the thread was locked have me really considering Purple/Dragon as two of the three scum (It would be 3 in a normal, right?). And given they know each other IRL...

scum!Purple / scum!Dragon works
town!Purple / scum!Dragon works
scum!Purple / town!Dragon doesn't work
town!Purple / town!Dragon could work but that means I have to find 3 scum in HPE, Kyouko, Joy, CW, Gera, Hu Tao. Possible? Yes. Likely? Feels like no.

Purple, what's your take on Dragon right now?

I don’t get the relation between the two.

Dragon was goading purple into voting on Day 1, though, and i think purple lack of voting is kinda townie

There's no relation

Pav isn't making sense and is just trying to divert attention elsewhere, IMO

This.

Specifically I don't think Ive said much of anything about Hu or Dragon but this morning I say they could both be scum and suddenly Hu could go for a pav vote and you say I'm diverting and not making sense even though I think my read on you/purple is pretty basic.

So yes, I found these posts funny.

Why am I scum before this?

It's not that you're overtly scummy, it's that I have basically no reason to townread you after, what, almost 40 pages? And when I can't say I TR you more than, say, Joyboy or Geraint at this point of the game...

I found your vote in 509 particularly bizarre and unhelpful and have been fostering sussy thoughts about you since then. Had Lap flipped scum, it would be a major red flag. The green flip makes it a little less clear but I still didn't love your explanation for it.

The focus on the Joyboy slot is also flagging me. You're there at end of d1 and again here on d2, but you aren't casing, you're just voting.

[Pavowski]

Speaking of Geraint, where is that dude

[cw357]

Kyouko posted the cop soft that Thom did

red sus

Feels like Kyouko already knew that was there and is acting like they didn’t

explain?

Can someone voting dragon explain that? I don't see it

pushed laplacian while maintaining distance yesterday in a very un-towny way
pocket attempts
a lot of interactions stuff, if a dragon wagon actually becomes a big thing I could ISO

Basically i think Kyouko already knew that FBI soft was there, and is acting like they just found it to help push a narrative. It’s sussy baka if they knew about it in Day 1.

red sus

I guess I wouldn't hate a pav vote either

I promise I'm not deliberately spamming the thread, but I hate wall posting. Between my last post and some notes I took at the end of d1 when I got home and the thread was locked have me really considering Purple/Dragon as two of the three scum (It would be 3 in a normal, right?). And given they know each other IRL...

scum!Purple / scum!Dragon works
town!Purple / scum!Dragon works
scum!Purple / town!Dragon doesn't work
town!Purple / town!Dragon could work but that means I have to find 3 scum in HPE, Kyouko, Joy, CW, Gera, Hu Tao. Possible? Yes. Likely? Feels like no.

Purple, what's your take on Dragon right now?

I don’t get the relation between the two.

Dragon was goading purple into voting on Day 1, though, and i think purple lack of voting is kinda townie

There's no relation

Pav isn't making sense and is just trying to divert attention elsewhere, IMO

This.

Specifically I don't think Ive said much of anything about Hu or Dragon but this morning I say they could both be scum and suddenly Hu could go for a pav vote and you say I'm diverting and not making sense even though I think my read on you/purple is pretty basic.

So yes, I found these posts funny.

Why am I scum before this?

It's not that you're overtly scummy, it's that I have basically no reason to townread you after, what, almost 40 pages? And when I can't say I TR you more than, say, Joyboy or Geraint at this point of the game...

I found your vote in 509 particularly bizarre and unhelpful and have been fostering sussy thoughts about you since then. Had Lap flipped scum, it would be a major red flag. The green flip makes it a little less clear but I still didn't love your explanation for it.

The focus on the Joyboy slot is also flagging me. You're there at end of d1 and again here on d2, but you aren't casing, you're just voting.

honestly i towncore pavowski atm
maybe im getting lulled by his tone but I've townread him the whole game
probably towncore flavor
I feel stupid saying I towncore joyboy but there've been games on other forums where I troll like this and it's usually cuz I'm bored as VT or smthn
also maybe hpe? I liked the way it responded to me and it the tone/playing style wasn't wildly consistent with past town games

purple/dragon/kyokuo is probably the scumteam I see at the moment
I haven't gone through geraint or purple's posts and I'd like to individually iso kyokuo since I haven't given that any detail but again if today's wagon is dragon that probably deserves focus too

[Pavowski]

My takes may be bad but my tones are dulcet

Geraint ISO will take you 10 sec, pack a snack

[cw357]

Speaking of Geraint, where is that dude

8 posts

1st!
7 votes to get rid of a townie!

no

Also hi Thomith

Do you have an opinion on sheeping people day 1?

VOTE: dragoneater

RVS

This postnis way too serious

A. WTF did I just read

B. Some nice alignment indicative commentary:

*pokes thread with a stick*

What, do you people have jobs or something?

Somebody vote Kyouko for that smell thing, that was weird, wasn't it?

That way I can defend her and be all "nah that's totally normal, actually"

I'm finding myself not liking this post. Its giving me a weird gut ping that it feels fake but I dont know how to explain it fully.

You mentioned earlier that we were early on in the day, but here you are acting like there is a sense of urgency that feels like a subtle contradiction.

Why are you trying to get other people to vote Kyouko for something that you find weird? Why not lead the charge yourself if you want to get the game moving?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pavowski

Thomith don't you think maybe you're jumping the gun a bit? Pavowski's post seems a little, teensy tiny bit, blatantly, shitposty.

Second post by HPE that pinged me as scummy

VOTE: HPE

i think shitposting is still just a mask, and can be alignment indicative either way. I dont think there's enough to discern a correct answer with Pavowski at all. I lean town, but wouldnt die on that hill.

ok actually the ones who are all on people for not doing tasks are able to tell because they're not doing tasks themselves
I find this mega-sussy

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf
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Also these 2 sentiments don't add up.

I'm not on anyone, nor do I plan to be.

VOTE: Flavor

But let's get a Flavor wagon going.

I'm torn between sheeping you and voting scum.

I guess I'll sheep any vote that isn't a self vote.

Though, thinking about it, I wouldn't

mind

pocketing Flavor, but that would probably require more effort than I am willing to put in for Day 1.

could be joke
i do see jokes here
but are jokes allowed?? :/

This checks out. Dragon town.

too jumpy, but not sussy-jumpy
more incompetent jumpy
imaginge you say someone venting adn you said

OHH MY GOODNESS BIG DADDY I SEE THE IMPROSOTR
but it was just an engineer
well that makes me think he do be just a jumpy conslusioner idk idk idk
*snipped rest of post*

cw is probably town

Spicy take, CW, lapalacian, HPE, and Pavowski are all town.

Why's HPE town?

Agree about the others probably

if you think flattery is gonna let you pocket me, well i gotta tell ya, you're probably right.

DragonEater's already doing a decent job making his pocket comfy.

Alright, I got a town core in Pavowski and DragonEater. Anyone's welcome at the table thus far to see what we're cooking, promise you some good flavor.

I'mma reverse pocket.

Yeah I could work with that

Can we policy elim cw? Or modkill?

modkills are generally reserved for breaches of game integrity.
idk what cw is doing but i skimmed his iso and i get the vibe he's just town playing weirdly so i would hope we don't have to policy him.
need to read rest of game though.

I think the point of a policy elim is that you do it without regard to the person's alignment, becayse they are harming thread health etc etc

kinda up for the policy if it continues. they already claimed vanilla, and yall know i love fading vanillas day 1.

Yep

Laplacian is scum you nerds you can policy the shitposter tomorrow

Reason?

going to read everything this one missed in a sec here but saw a bunch of votes moving around Pavowski so time to UNVOTE: Pavowski before something stupid happens

Another scum post

*snipped cw quotes*
well, i was hoping you might do something to convince me/the town that you wouldn't be a good policy execution, but so far, this isn't very persuasive. i get the impression that you're not willing to engage with the game in good faith regardless of your alignment. i don't intend to fight for a policy execution here, but as of now, i don't mind one. i'd like to have some more discussion before though if that's what we do, game's only just started.

p-edit: yes it is.

Kinda think this is sliiiightly scummy for the "I am not going to push a policy lim but I don't oppose one", since it could come from scum not wanting to initiate an anti-town play while still wanting to support it, BUT I do think town could also say this, so right now it's a very small scumlean.

So is this game dead already? That sucks.

Btw I am an Alien Novice Death-Millerizer 2-Shot Vigilante.

Sus post. How is it dead? It's been less than a day?

Sus post. How is it sus? It's just an RVS post?

Seriously though, I think Hu Taown is in town.

feels like a weak buss if DE were to flip wolf

I barely remember much of geraint, but i think that's a good thing with geraint slightly, and i expect to be able to read em if they're scum anyways.

yep, ive done nothing. i know you can read me, so i am happy to not vote you on day 1 and skip to day 2

... not sure if there's a history here but it pisses me off when people pretend like d1 doesn't exist

VOTE: Laplacian

bandwagoning (to an extent I think scum can get equally jumpy with this compared to town so probably NAI)

Well, that's E-2. If I get rushed in the next few hours, probably 1+ scum on me already and 1+ scum in the last two voters

Yoy aren't getting voted out, don't worry

famous last words

VOTE: Laplacian

Gonna elaborate or just vote and run?

I am doing what I can to progress the game

this almost comes across as town but take it for what it's worth

Glad cw is back and toning down the memes. However, they pop back in within 30 minutes of Kyouko saying cw had valid thoughts. Could just be good timing, but I'm also thinking scum chat coaching. Like, "tone it down before you get policied, go contribute next time you're mentioned"

am i just in the wrong scum chats. i have never had games like this where my partners tell me how to post

fluff

I don't townread but I townlean geraint more than I scumlean so yeah

[cw357]

MY READS

WELCOME TO AMOGUS CITY

He got that drip frfr

The nice list
Flavor
Pavowski
Joyboy

The neutral list
HighPrincessErinys
geraintm
Purplemango

The naught list (impostors are venting and sabotaging our tasks like taking care of navigation but then the oxygen starts to run out??!?!?!??!!)
Kyouku
DragonEater
Hu Tao

further developments could cause me to downgrade either joyboy or purplemango and swap them with a scumread, unlikely though

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[HighPrincessErinys]

did not realize geras last post was that long ago how are they still not prodded

[Pavowski]

did not realize geras last post was that long ago how are they still not prodded

Coulda checked in with the mod during night phase to avoid prod, but yeah

MY READS

WELCOME TO AMOGUS CITY

He got that drip frfr

The nice list
Flavor
Pavowski
Joyboy

The neutral list
HighPrincessErinys
geraintm
Purplemango

The naught list (impostors are venting and sabotaging our tasks like taking care of navigation but then the oxygen starts to run out??!?!?!??!!)
Kyouku
DragonEater
Hu Tao

further developments could cause me to downgrade either joyboy or purplemango and swap them with a scumread, unlikely though

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You were so close with the formatting

[HighPrincessErinys]

Coulda checked in with the mod during night phase to avoid prod, but yeah

that sounds like they'd be deliberately lurking then

[Pavowski]

Coulda checked in with the mod during night phase to avoid prod, but yeah

that sounds like they'd be deliberately lurking then

Kinda sorta seems so but I try to be charitable up to a point

[Hu Tao]

Speaking of Geraint, where is that dude

Holiday probably