Mini Normal 2322: Game Over

[Hu Tao]

Okay Hu Tao is never scum with Joyboy (and on reread of ISO is town)

[Hu Tao]

Are you calling me or joyboy town there?

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not ready to count out Kyouko, and something about Joyboy town pings me.

I would prefer not Joyboy today. Very low info too

[Flavor Leaf]

If CW is town, and Hu Tao/Dragon town, if I’m dead, CW voting one of Hu Tao/Dragon is game over.

[Hu Tao]

If CW is town, and Hu Tao/Dragon town, if I’m dead, CW voting one of Hu Tao/Dragon is game over.

Yep pretty much what will happen imo

[Joyboy]

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
I'M GOING ON AN ADVENTURE!

[Hu Tao]

Merry Christmas to all

[cw357]

I WANT MEAT
THIS MEAT IS NOT FRESH

[Hu Tao]

How terrible would a mass claim be right now. Because as of right now, I feel like if we don't get scum today or by vig shot, we lose effectively.

[Pavowski]

How terrible would a mass claim be right now. Because as of right now, I feel like if we don't get scum today or by vig shot, we lose effectively.

Missing scum today would be bad but wouldn't end the game, I don't think.

Currently 10 players, 3 scum

We vote off town, that's 6 town to 3 scum
Assuming scum kills tonight and it's unstoppable (I dunno how likely this is, just playing out worst cases) that's 5 town to 3 scum
Assuming vig shoots green tonight that's 4 town to 3 scum

Y'know, suboptimal, but not a game over if we miss today. I dunno if we need or want the mass claim, and I personally am not going back looking for softs. Maybe Kyo wants a homework assignment.

[cw357]

i am vt

not opposed to a hu tao wagon, who's feeling it?

maybe hu tao/dragon/hpe is scumteam?

[Pavowski]

But 900, 863 and 867 read as flailing / throwing mud everywhere in search of a viable wagon

Dragon you seem to have gone right to to "Pav's reasons are bad therefore scum" without ever passing through "Pav's reasons are bad, therefore dumb town".

Here's the thing -- your play has been chaotic enough that it's been hard to read for me from game start. You've made some odd votes, sheeped FL almost without fail, and now that I'm professing some serious misgivings about you, wham, I'm one of your top scumreads. I don't think you OMGUS me like that as town.

You're the one I want today, baby, but we'll always have d1

[Hu Tao]

i am vt

not opposed to a hu tao wagon, who's feeling it?

maybe hu tao/dragon/hpe is scumteam?

If I'm scum why would you listen to me and claim?

Mostly was asking flavor since he's the clear

[Pavowski]

i am vt

not opposed to a hu tao wagon, who's feeling it?

maybe hu tao/dragon/hpe is scumteam?

I've been town reading dragon since day 1

I kinda ship DE/Hu Tao as scumteam with a lurker but this is awfully lazy defense of scum!Dragon by a scumpartner

[Flavor Leaf]

Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.

[Flavor Leaf]

If there’s a blocker, I’m getting blocked, though, so doesn’t really matter too much.

I do prefer fading in the CW/Pavowski duo, thohuh.

[Pavowski]

I’m not ready to count out Kyouko, and something about Joyboy town pings me.

I would prefer not Joyboy today. Very low info too

This is facts on Joyboy, if we hit town there it gives us next to nothing

Kinda another reason I want DE today, he's bounced off everybody in the thread a few times it feels like

Flavor did you ever do your wagonalysis?

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s possible it’s one of each, like a Pavowski/Hu Tao, but that’s hard to deal with anyways. But that also makes a lot of sense.

[Pavowski]

Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.

That'll be fun, I dunno if I've ever gotten shot

Don't think you'd have to, though

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not ready to count out Kyouko, and something about Joyboy town pings me.

I would prefer not Joyboy today. Very low info too

This is facts on Joyboy, if we hit town there it gives us next to nothing

Kinda another reason I want DE today, he's bounced off everybody in the thread a few times it feels like

Flavor did you ever do your wagonalysis?

I’ve been busy. How much longer do we have? Might have a little bit of time here right now actually.

[Pavowski]

We have a week left, lol

[Pavowski]

No rush, it's still Christmas, what are we even doing here

[Pavowski]

Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.

Wait what? I misread or I'm just being stupid. If Hu Tao/DE flips town you vig me, but what's the vice versa -- if you flip me/CW town you'll shoot Hu Tao/ DE?

[Flavor Leaf]

1.1

DragonEater70 (1)

- geraintm

Flavor Leaf (1)

- Pavowski

Hu Tao (1)

-

Thomith

Not Voting (10)

-

Abnegation

, cw357, DragonEater70,

Flavor Leaf

, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao,

Laplacian

, Joyboy, Purplemango, ssbm_Kyouko

1.2

Flavor Leaf (3)

- Pavowski,

Flavor Leaf

, cw357

Pavowski (2)

-

Thomith

,

Laplacian

Abnegation (1)

-

Abnegation

DragonEater70 (1)

- geraintm

Laplacian (1)

- ssbm_kyouko

Not Voting (5)

- DragonEater70, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, Joyboy, Purplemango

1.3

Laplacian (4)

- ssbm_kyouko,

Abnegation

, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys

Flavor Leaf (2)

-

Flavor Leaf

, cw357

Abnegation (1)

-

Laplacian

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

DragonEater70 (1)

- geraintm

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- DragonEater70

Not Voting (3)

- Hu Tao, Purplemango,

Thomith

1.4

Laplacian (5)

- ssbm_kyouko,

Abnegation

, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm

HighPrincessErinys (3)

- Hu Tao,

Flavor Leaf

, DragonEater70

Flavor Leaf (1)

- cw357

Abnegation (1)

-

Laplacian

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango,

Thomith

1.5

Laplacian (5)

- ssbm_kyouko,

Abnegation

, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm

Abnegation (2)

- DragonEater70,

Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

-

Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango,

Thomith

1.6

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko,

Abnegation

, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70,

Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

-

Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango,

Thomith

2.1

cw357 (2)

-

Flavor Leaf

, HighPrincessErinys

Flavor Leaf

(1)

- cw357

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Joyboy (1)

- Hu Tao

Pavowski (1)

- DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango, ssbm_Kyouko

[Flavor Leaf]

Pavowski/cw and Hu Tao/DragonEater are an obv split.

If we fade in Hu Tao/DE, I’m vigging Pavowski if they flip town, and vice versa.

Wait what? I misread or I'm just being stupid. If Hu Tao/DE flips town you vig me, but what's the vice versa -- if you flip me/CW town you'll shoot Hu Tao/ DE?

yeah probably Hu Tao.