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[Pavowski]

Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow

[Flavor Leaf]

1.2

Flavor Leaf (3)

- Pavowski,

Flavor Leaf

, cw357

Pavowski (2)

-

Thomith

,

Laplacian

Abnegation (1)

-

Abnegation

DragonEater70 (1)

- geraintm

Laplacian (1)

- ssbm_kyouko

Not Voting (5)

- DragonEater70, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, Joyboy, Purplemango

at face value, this one looks really bad for Pavowski. 2 flipped townies on Pavowski, one of them ends up getting pounced on later. I think this almost guarantees that one of CW or Pavowski is scum, possibly both, but I think it's more likely one, and then 2 scum hanging outside the main wagons. This was early game, though.

[Pavowski]

Actually I guess there's a chance CW flips scum too but we'll fall off that bridge when we come to it, I would kinda be surprised right now

[Flavor Leaf]

Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow

I can't. They softed some sort of BP esque role, and i dont wanna mess with the WIFOM of that. I'd rather shoot for a for sure kill. I can see a world where they faked it, but yeah, I'm not going to be vigging DE.

[Pavowski]

1.2

Flavor Leaf (3)

- Pavowski,

Flavor Leaf

, cw357

Pavowski (2)

-

Thomith

,

Laplacian

Abnegation (1)

-

Abnegation

DragonEater70 (1)

- geraintm

Laplacian (1)

- ssbm_kyouko

Not Voting (5)

- DragonEater70, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, Joyboy, Purplemango

at face value, this one looks really bad for Pavowski. 2 flipped townies on Pavowski, one of them ends up getting pounced on later. I think this almost guarantees that one of CW or Pavowski is scum, possibly both, but I think it's more likely one, and then 2 scum hanging outside the main wagons. This was early game, though.

It was the closest we ever got to a Flavor wagon, too, RIP

[Flavor Leaf]

Im beginning to think Kyouko is probably scum here as well, so that might be a vig shot.

[Flavor Leaf]

idk, that Lap wagon was really bad, and I knew it too. If I wasn't vig, i wouldnt have faded there, even with the vanilla claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

HPE's vote on Lap is awful too.

[Pavowski]

Rather you shoot Dragon if you flip me/CW today but you do you boo

Maybe somebody can change my mind over the coming days, tho

I'm re-voting Dragon tomorrow

I can't. They softed some sort of BP esque role, and i dont wanna mess with the WIFOM of that. I'd rather shoot for a for sure kill. I can see a world where they faked it, but yeah, I'm not going to be vigging DE.

......... well shit

His ISO is so long

Not doing that tonight, it's sleepy time here soon

[Flavor Leaf]

i also am contemplating being okay leaving CW alive as a future lesson of why that was the correct Day 1 misfade if they misvote as town for the loss or if they are scum, it was also the correct fade there.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pavowski, Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao are my candidates that I'm okay with if we're not going CW.

UNVOTE: CW

[Flavor Leaf]

1.4

Laplacian (5)

- ssbm_kyouko,

Abnegation

, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm

HighPrincessErinys (3)

- Hu Tao,

Flavor Leaf

, DragonEater70

Flavor Leaf (1)

- cw357

Abnegation (1)

-

Laplacian

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango,

Thomith

there is like always at least 1 scum on Lap. I might even say 2.

Depending on HPE's alignment, there's either 1 or 0 scum on HPE. I actually think this one helps me clear a teaming of Hu Tao/DE because there's so much pressure against the Lap wagon, by all means we could have possibly stopped it. DE gives me some paranoia, as does Hu tao, but I think they aren't aligned here.

There is scum in HPE, Hu Tao, DragonEater though.

There is scum in Pavowski, Kyouko, Geraint, HPE, possibly 2.

CW, Joyboy, Purple are the offs. There is zero or 1 scum here, never 2 imo.

[Flavor Leaf]

1 or 2 of Kyouko, Pavowski, HPE, Geraint

1 or 0 of Hu Tao, Dragon Eater,

1 or 0 of CW, Joyboy, Purple

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao?

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouko, Pavowski, Joyboy.

I just get a lot of objective agenda vibes from Pavowski.

CW went at Kyouko a bit earlier, and Pavowski turned that into a DragonEater push harder. They also used Hu Tao against Joyboy as a main reasoning to go Hu Tao.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wish I could see HPE alignment without having to flip them, lol. that's a big key slot here for me right now.

[Pavowski]

Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao?

I stated it before but I am gonna be gobsmacked if scum!Kyo leads a relentless charge like that on Lap. She never wavered, even a little bit -- that's a hell of a gambit for scum.

Of course, me being surprised by a thing is hardly a reason to think it couldn't happen.

More likely Hu Tao, HPE, Geraint but Geraint's still basically a zero info slot

If I'm going to reconsider town!Dragon I need to reconsider scum!Purple, I was close to ruling that out

[Pavowski]

I wish I could see HPE alignment without having to flip them, lol. that's a big key slot here for me right now.

I bet if you ask, that one will tell you

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao?

I stated it before but I am gonna be gobsmacked if scum!Kyo leads a relentless charge like that on Lap. She never wavered, even a little bit -- that's a hell of a gambit for scum.

Of course, me being surprised by a thing is hardly a reason to think it couldn't happen.

More likely Hu Tao, HPE, Geraint but Geraint's still basically a zero info slot

If I'm going to reconsider town!Dragon I need to reconsider scum!Purple, I was close to ruling that out

eh, i dont think it's that hard to do, especially after rereading their posts, they just spam discredited. I really didn't like when they said Lap's 221 or whatever post it was reeked, cuz Lap had pretty good posts imo.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm pretty okay with Geraint overall. One thing pinged me with them joining on Lap, but I think they just voted. Idk. I think Geraint would do like a little more if scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao?

I stated it before but I am gonna be gobsmacked if scum!Kyo leads a relentless charge like that on Lap. She never wavered, even a little bit -- that's a hell of a gambit for scum.

Of course, me being surprised by a thing is hardly a reason to think it couldn't happen.

More likely Hu Tao, HPE, Geraint but Geraint's still basically a zero info slot

If I'm going to reconsider town!Dragon I need to reconsider scum!Purple, I was close to ruling that out

sorry if you're town, but i just dont believe anything you say.

Your reads also feel specifically chosen to establish a spot in the gamestate.

[Pavowski]

Kyouko, Pavowski, Joyboy.

I just get a lot of objective agenda vibes from Pavowski.

CW went at Kyouko a bit earlier, and Pavowski turned that into a DragonEater push harder. They also used Hu Tao against Joyboy as a main reasoning to go Hu Tao.

I endorse shooting Hu Tao if you flip me. I won't give you the associatives you want; I'm probably just a knucklehead

Like if you think HPE unlocks things, I could be convinced. I think that's town but I'm less confident there than Kyo

[Flavor Leaf]

Me knowing that Hu Tao could easily be trying to get me to town read them and avoid being vigged is one of the things keeping me from fully scum reading Pavowski, though. I also think it's possible it's a ScumPav, TownKyouko.

[Pavowski]

Kyouko, HPE, Hu Tao?

I stated it before but I am gonna be gobsmacked if scum!Kyo leads a relentless charge like that on Lap. She never wavered, even a little bit -- that's a hell of a gambit for scum.

Of course, me being surprised by a thing is hardly a reason to think it couldn't happen.

More likely Hu Tao, HPE, Geraint but Geraint's still basically a zero info slot

If I'm going to reconsider town!Dragon I need to reconsider scum!Purple, I was close to ruling that out

sorry if you're town, but i just dont believe anything you say.

Your reads also feel specifically chosen to establish a spot in the gamestate.

Nah I get it, it's all in the game. And if you think I'm the flip you need, well .... we can't lose the game today, so

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm like also aware DragonScum would have actively played to pocket me this game. Like that's a choice that made, and imo, that's far bolder than Kyouko's push on Lap.