Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you're just not reading. I've scumread them since day 1

Who do you think is mafia other than us

Also still waiting on an answer to 2831

Ari might be scum. And yes, there is an issue. Cause your town read said I'm town yet you said you're still unsure. So seems like an excuse imo

[Theta Alpine]

hmmmm i could be convinced to switch to yes actually

not sure about rce though i need to read them again
their self vote is

uhh

i am really not sure what to think about it

[yessiree]

I just sell my vote to Meuh.

Ez.

That's not very enchant of you

Shut up you don't even know enchanting table language

shut up and 1v1 me in roblox

[yessiree]

fb, yessiree, hu tao reads still need to cook but kinda where we're at right now.

ill serve u sick dish right now

only scum has townread me so far, everyone who sr me is probtown+

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, this reminds me of scumFB after he was caught by me in Mafia Has A Cop

We haven't read that game, can you give a twitter length tl;dr on what the similarities were and if it was a Drew^TM read?

I tracked FB to Flavor, so he was caught scum there. But the only slight chance he had was to get angry and flail, and even lob some insults like he has done here.

Not an exact 1/1 scenario and reaction, but the general similar tones of both reactions is what sticks out to me the most.

I'm feelin the town Drew vibes, this is still a certified Drew^TM post tho

I think we're fine with locktowning Drew over this btw.

Drew normally has an element of tinfoil to his townplay that he tries to emulate in his scumgame but in those cases it tends to be him having a normal one until suddenly he realizes he needs to Drew it up and drops some crazy tinfoil to play to his meta. Here this feels like unstated tinfoil that people won't actually realize is tinfoil until it gets dug into, like very much natural instead of being played up

Also not sure of this is a TMI slip or not.

But color me wanting to maybe vote Python as well.

Can you explain how my scum and town game are different? Cause I disagree with your assessment.

[Doctor Drew]

fb, yessiree, hu tao reads still need to cook but kinda where we're at right now.

ill serve u sick dish right now

only scum has townread me so far, everyone who sr me is probtown+

This is like the worst post ever from someone who probably is town

I like it and is something I would do haha

[Gamma Emerald]

fb, yessiree, hu tao reads still need to cook but kinda where we're at right now.

ill serve u sick dish right now

only scum has townread me so far, everyone who sr me is probtown+

I want to see you crunch numbers on this

[usesPython]

I think you're just not reading. I've scumread them since day 1

Who do you think is mafia other than us

Also still waiting on an answer to 2831

Ari might be scum. And yes, there is an issue. Cause your town read said I'm town yet you said you're still unsure. So seems like an excuse imo

Notice how we're still not voting you even though you're below rce tier. We're willing to sheep, doesn't mean we wont speak our mind when we're laying out our reads on everyone

[usesPython]

{town}
{Python, Meuh}
{Gamma}
{Drew}

{dave, Bella, Enchant, Ari, Naerys, furtive, theta}
{rce}

{scum}

fb, yessiree, hu tao reads still need to cook but kinda where we're at right now. yessiree feels like town but in our blindspot and with a knife in his pocket. fb's probably town but in the paranoia zone. Hu Tao we can't tell if scumsiding or just scum

{fb}
{yessiree}


{hu tao}

Yessiree and Hu Tao plausible scum candidates, approval from me

Yes. I bussed my teammate day 1. And my teammate tried to make me the counterwagon. You caught us.

Yes. We bussed our teammate day 1. And our teammate tried to make us the counterwagon. You caught us.

[usesPython]

Lol, this reminds me of scumFB after he was caught by me in Mafia Has A Cop

We haven't read that game, can you give a twitter length tl;dr on what the similarities were and if it was a Drew^TM read?

I tracked FB to Flavor, so he was caught scum there. But the only slight chance he had was to get angry and flail, and even lob some insults like he has done here.

Not an exact 1/1 scenario and reaction, but the general similar tones of both reactions is what sticks out to me the most.

I'm feelin the town Drew vibes, this is still a certified Drew^TM post tho

I think we're fine with locktowning Drew over this btw.

Drew normally has an element of tinfoil to his townplay that he tries to emulate in his scumgame but in those cases it tends to be him having a normal one until suddenly he realizes he needs to Drew it up and drops some crazy tinfoil to play to his meta. Here this feels like unstated tinfoil that people won't actually realize is tinfoil until it gets dug into, like very much natural instead of being played up

Also not sure of this is a TMI slip or not.

But color me wanting to maybe vote Python as well.

Can you explain how my scum and town game are different? Cause I disagree with your assessment.

It's something that we noticed when we were reading your games to meta you for Weird Dreams Redux, we picked up on it when we were reading Mini Normal 2296. There you went from being a 0 on the Drewmometer to posting

So I say vote bristep and state that an elim between Dessew/bristep is the best course of action, not only are they most scummy and odds are the best there is at least one scum between them imo, but there is enough connective tissue that both of them could be scum.

Then just as Dessew is saying that scum have day talk and could launch a coordinated attack, they both launch what appears to be a coordinated attack on me lol.

Oh this is good stuff right here.

Where the vibe was very much "look at me I'm drewposting".

[usesPython]

Like if we were to put it into words scum Drew throws a molotov through your living room window while town Drew replaces all the fuses in your fusebox with a higher rating

[usesPython]

Like if we were to put it into words scum Drew throws a molotov through your living room window while town Drew replaces all the fuses in your fusebox with a higher rating

Scum Drews Drewposting is a lightswitch while town Drews is a dimmer switch

[usesPython]

fb, yessiree, hu tao reads still need to cook but kinda where we're at right now.

ill serve u sick dish right now

only scum has townread me so far, everyone who sr me is probtown+

We're mindmelding with all your posts while never getting town vibes and idk how to interpret that

[usesPython]

I think you're just not reading. I've scumread them since day 1

Who do you think is mafia other than us

Also still waiting on an answer to 2831

Ari might be scum. And yes, there is an issue. Cause your town read said I'm town yet you said you're still unsure. So seems like an excuse imo

Why Ari

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Ari relevant topic.

[Aristeia]

VOTE: rce ok

VOTE: Ari relevant topic.

what's your state of mind for these?-

[RCEnigma]

I was frustrated with fb because I think they can be town with poor reasoning. I think you can be scum riding the wave.

[Aristeia]

why r you fustrated with fb and what is poor about his reasoning?

[RCEnigma]

The biggest reason I think RCE is scum is honestly I heavily played into the idea he was legit cleared to give myself max cop equity the fact he and I lived makes me think he knew I wasn’t cop ergo scum.

I also have hard time buying he think I’m scum at this stage but maybe I’ll have one on one chat with him to sus how legit that sounds in his head

He never suspected me till this minute so I am presssing x for now

Because angling his play towards me as some kind of trap gambit completely ignores the fact I can (and am) town that could also just not think he’s cop.

We didn’t interact much day 1, mostly because I’m not going to get much out of it as far as discerning his alignment. From d2 on it’s a little easier. Tbh most of day 1 I just thought of fb as right in the middle of his scumrange. There’s overlap obviously with his towngame.

He’s STILL not out of it with the lim on Titus just because the scenario I put out start of day doesn’t have as much to do with fb as it does with Titus making a team decision.

But I’m getting off track, fb saying he didn’t die so I’m scum because he made me his n0 hypo claim is dumb. I can just be town with no agency in the nk. Or scum could have just decided de was more likely cop. Or FB has bad enough reads scum could have been ok letting him live a night. Which are all way likelier scenarios.

[Gamma Emerald]

But I’m getting off track, fb saying he didn’t die so I’m scum because he made me his n0 hypo claim is dumb. I can just be town with no agency in the nk. Or scum could have just decided de was more likely cop. Or FB has bad enough reads scum could have been ok letting him live a night. Which are all way likelier scenarios.

Which is the most likely to you?

[RCEnigma]

Not to mention his theory about the back half of the wagon containing scum and then ignoring the context of what was happening with the wagons in regard to Titus and DE. There is 0 point for me to push back on to Titus who would be my partner in this scenario, to get pressure off of someone that not only have I been scumreading all game day but was also scumreading me.

Especially if FB is town, I could easily just pile on with FB switching wagons because it’s natural for me to just scumcase the guy I’m already scumreading.

[RCEnigma]

Scum probably had a better bead on DE as coo. Or at least was the strongest in their pool of likely cops.

[RCEnigma]

With the hypo there is probably a fair enough amount of N0s on scum that are immediately ruled out whether they play close to their claimed check or not. Also the late claimed checks are worth tossing out. It’s likely their check is read based and didn’t come before the game started.

I think de is the one that wanted to get people to hold their claims till late in the day, it’s not really how hypo works but making the suggestion is probably driven by him being cop in retrospect.

[Aristeia]

like you're right that his logic is pretty bad but its also bad in a way that comes from town!him

and you can always just be fustrated as caught for the wrong reasons scum.

you just feel really flat/unethuiastic about this game whereas like in G&R you felt a lot more like you were interested in playing and just throwing things out there

[Aristeia]

like the undertone of frustration I'm getting from you is that you

know

why the mafia shot dragoneater but you don't want to say it because it incriminates you and it certainly isn't what firebringer thinks