Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Flavor Leaf]

Town reading someone isn’t a confirmation of it happening because ya can be wrong

[Bingle]

I don't know why I'm responding to what is clearly an attempt to generate noise. Hu Tao is scum because of the whole not actually solving or being interested in helping town thing and using her reads as a weapon to disincentivize voting her instead of looking for scum. The roleblocking stuff is all about reading celebloki. That's... not really hard to piece together if you take even a minute to read my posts.

[Naerys]

Well, if you put it like that, Hu looks rather bad.

[Hu Tao]

If you, as vanilla, knew that Celeb was rb'd, you could only have gotten that information from a scum PT.

He claimed he was roleblocked. I townread him. Why would I think he's lying if I townread him??

[Hu Tao]

Town reading someone isn’t a confirmation of it happening because ya can be wrong

Yes. But why would I think my townread is lying?

[Flavor Leaf]

Because you could be wrong. Even if you’re like 90% sure they’re 10, there’s still that small percentage you could be wrong.

Bingle is technically correct in their argument, and if they are scum doing it, it gave them an opening to look correct in the back and forth with you

[Bingle]

Because you could be wrong. Even if you’re like 90% sure they’re 10, there’s still that small percentage you could be wrong.

Bingle is technically correct in their argument, and if they are scum doing it, it gave them an opening to look correct in the back and forth with you

That’s not even an argument I’m making, though. It’s a thing celeb posted that I’m digging into. Hu Tao is trying to derail off of the actual reasons she’s scum with this whole thing that’s completely irrelevant to the scum case on her.

It’s the mafia equivalent of saying “I didn’t stab that guy, I don’t even know how to fly a helicopter!”

[Thomith]

It means they didn't roadblock Celeb, like he was suggesting.

What?

I was suggesting that the only way Hu Tao could've known that a roleblock happened as a vanilla would be a partner being responsible for it, and wondering why celebloki seemed to be townreading Hu Tao based on what would nominally be a guilty result. Celeb clarified the belief was only pre VC result, but I'm still interested in his actual conclusions there, particularly because I don't think it's likely for them to be paired.

Celeb was originally suggesting he thought Hu Tao roleblocked him, so was surprised Hu Tao was investigated as Vanilla.

[Bingle]

Yes, and I was trying to find out if he'd put any further thought into that/what he decided.

[Hu Tao]

I still think of the posters, bingle is the one I'd want eliminated the most.

[Hu Tao]

Maybe Naerys or sir cakez. But much preferred by a lot is bingle.

[Bingle]

I still think of the posters, bingle is the one pushing me the most.

FTFY

[DragonEater70]

Prodding Celebloki.

[Celebloki]

Sorry for invoking a prod, I've been here, I just have no idea where we are even at with this game anymore.

It doesn't even seem like there is even a concerted push in any direction. I think the pervailing wagons are Bingle and Hu Tao, but each only have 2 votes.

I could be coming around on being willing to give my my 'courtesy' town read of Hu Tao I've been carrying if only because I really don't know who else I find to be especially scummy. I always find Hu Tao scummy, but wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt for once instead of tunneling.

I think Dunn has moved out of being scummy for me. Wiz gets a pass for the same reason I hope I'd get a pass for the day. I TR Thom and FL.

The game recently just appears to be Bingle and Hu Tao sniping at each other. I think in that pair I'd rather vote Hu Tao.

[AnimatedWiz]

I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.

I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah, Hu Tao or Bingle, puttem up

[Thomith]

I think I'd also prefer Bingle over Hu Tao, but do agree one probably needs to flip today for info at the very least.

[Naerys]

Bingle reminds me his play in mini 2317, where he was town.
Bingle vs Hu feels rather similiar as Bingle vs Sleepy Dragon - 2 towns fighting each other. So i think Bingle vs Hu is possible TvT

You can look it up here viewtopic.php?t=91890

[DragonEater70]

Prodding RCEnigma.

[Thomith]

Bingle reminds me his play in mini 2317, where he was town.
Bingle vs Hu feels rather similiar as Bingle vs Sleepy Dragon - 2 towns fighting each other. So i think Bingle vs Hu is possible TvT

You can look it up here viewtopic.php?t=91890

In that case who does that leave?
While I'm not entirely convinced that both the Neap/Role Cop are both Town, I do think we should leave them alone today.
I can feasibly see Bingle/HT being TvT as well, just something in my gut more than anything tbh.

That leaves; Me, You (Naerys), Dunn, FL, Roden, RCE, Cakez.

FL I think we also leave because part of the things we want to see play out tonight is the Neap investigating FL I believe? While I'm less sure of my TR of them, they're such a force that I dont want to vote them because I'm getting paranoid.

So that leaves the lim pool between Me/You, Dunn, Roden, RCE and Cakez?

[Thomith]

My only other point is I feel, even if they flip town, that HT or Bingle flipping green does seek to give us a lot of information, and if either do flip red, I think may also give us more information than some other less talkative players if they flip red?

Whether that is a good enough reason to lim purely for that information though, I'm not sure about tbh.

[Naerys]

flavor

VC 1.FINAL

VC 1.FINAL

gob (7): Roden, ssbm_kyouko, AnimatedWiz, Naerys, Flavor Leaf, RCEnigma, Dunnstral

SirCakez (2): Thomith, Hu Tao
RCEnigma (1): SirCakez
ssbm_kyouko (1): Celebloki
Flavor Leaf (1): gob
Roden (1): Bingle

Not voting (0):

It takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline: (expired on 2023-12-18 16:10:00).

Me and fl can’t be nked this is gonna be pretty quick.

VOTE: gob

I think RCE is good choice for finding scum. His joining that gob wagon was just bad. He doesnt share reads, he does nothing except hiding in shadows.
As for other 2 scum its hard to say. I TR you,Dunn and Roden so that leaves FL and Cakez.

Limming RCE and investigating FL feels like a good move. If FL is town then i will need to rethink my reads

[Hu Tao]

I still think rce is town from how they acted day 1

[Hu Tao]

Gob was my tr and was already voted out. So I don't want to vote another one of my trs out

[Naerys]

I still think rce is town from how they acted day 1

What is it that you see about him, that makes you TR him? I really dont understand