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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:43 am

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In post 1261, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor

How does my play make ANY sense scum here

If I'm scum why don't I just continue pocketing you like I did Day 1? Why do I vote you when you fucking claim vig? Why do I vote Joyboy over the perfectly valid wagons of cw and Pav, which you seem to imply are town in a scum!Dragon world (based on the cw/Pav vs Hu Tao/Dragon thing from earlier)?
It’s things like this that just reek.

There’s obvious reasons to all of these why scum would do them here.

If you’re town, they aren’t true, but the lack of awareness is rough
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:45 am

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Well I'll tell you one thing: I don't actively think about what I'd do as scum when I'm town.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:46 am

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So all the reasons that are obvious to you aren't that obvious to me
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:47 am

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In post 1274, Pavowski wrote: Do you think we don't flip CW before we're at ELO? Either by vote or vig?
I will not vig CW.

It’s possible. It sucks if they don’t reassess, but if CW is correct town, that can be figured out, and correctly reading and not killing is a powerful tool there. That being said, I think CE has scum equity with multiple people. Like Hu Tao. Like Kyouko.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:47 am

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In post 1276, DragonEater70 wrote: Well I'll tell you one thing: I don't actively think about what I'd do as scum when I'm town.
Sure, but if you are scum, you are doing it, so it’s a moot defense.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:48 am

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I also don’t care to follow that thread further for blanket self town defenses that don’t matter that much.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:49 am

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I can make a town case on every player in the game, more interested in scum cases.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:50 am

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100% agree a red flip on CW looks rough on Kyo right now FMPOV

And I already think Hu Tao is more likely scum than not, how Dragon has that slot as locktown is ? ? ?
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:54 am

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In post 1281, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can make a town case on every player in the game, more interested in scum cases.
I agree but

Where's the scumcase for Kyouko

What do you think about Kyouko's scumcase for Pav

What do you think about the (forgotten and perhaps unjustifiably so) scum case for HPE

And I also disagree that there's a GOOD town case for Joyboy.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:54 am

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In post 1282, Pavowski wrote: 100% agree a red flip on CW looks rough on Kyo right now FMPOV

And I already think Hu Tao is more likely scum than not, how Dragon has that slot as locktown is ? ? ?
Why is HT scum?
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:55 am

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2.1cw357 (2) - Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys
Flavor Leaf (1) - cw357
geraintm (1) - Joyboy
Joyboy (1) - Hu Tao
Pavowski (1) - DragonEater70

Not Voting (4) - geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango, ssbm_Kyouko



2.2cw357 (4) - DragonEater70, cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao
geraintm (1) - Joyboy

Not Voting (5) - Flavor Leaf, geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango, ssbm_Kyouko
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:56 am

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Damn it, every time I think Pav is a good flip he comes along and posts something like this which makes me say "why would scum!Pav just go and do the opposite of creating a wagon on a towny" and then I am lost again
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:58 am

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In post 1283, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1281, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can make a town case on every player in the game, more interested in scum cases.
I agree but

Where's the scumcase for Kyouko

What do you think about Kyouko's scumcase for Pav

What do you think about the (forgotten and perhaps unjustifiably so) scum case for HPE

And I also disagree that there's a GOOD town case for Joyboy.
Kyouko's scumcase for Pav looks fabricated and like potential saving of CW. They also tunneled Lap poorly, when I thought Lap was incredibly townie. If I wasn't a vig ready to shoot, i wouldnt have quickhammered there even with Vanilla. Don't really regret it, though.

I do believe that tunnel to be scum indicative from where we are now, especially considering Kyouko hasnt voted this day phase, it looks like they're feeling the water.


There's not a great town case for joyboy, there's not a great scum case for em either. Sucks. They could be scum. They're a bad fade today, though, for the chance the flip town.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:00 am

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in a world where Dragon and Hu Tao are town, I don't see how Kyouko is also town here.

I also think Pavowski is beginning to become obv town.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:01 am

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I'm pretty sure I've already stated that I don't have any compelling reasons to TR Hu Tao. If I'm wrong, I'll state it now.

I find many other players townier than Hu Tao, including, and it pains me to say this, the lurkers
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:02 am

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Fuck this I'm just going to sheep Flavor

Clearly he's not going to work with me and he's conftown so whatever

I'll graciously accept getting vigged tonight if Flavor is wrong

VOTE: cw

Pedit: okay that makes me feel slightly better about this vote
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:03 am

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I am not on CW right now.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:03 am

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and imo, that's telling.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:05 am

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my solve right now is Kyouko, Hu Tao or DragonEater, and then HPE/Geraint/Joyboy
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:08 am

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VOTE: Kyouko
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:08 am

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In post 1245, cw357 wrote: just do it I hate playing against powerwolfs
sheep me on Kyouko.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 1290, DragonEater70 wrote: Fuck this I'm just going to sheep Flavor

Clearly he's not going to work with me and he's conftown so whatever

I'll graciously accept getting vigged tonight if Flavor is wrong

VOTE: cw

Pedit: okay that makes me feel slightly better about this vote
this is manipulative posting considering CW is E-1, and I'm not voting there.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:10 am

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I thought Dragon's vote made CW e-2?
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:11 am

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In post 1290, DragonEater70 wrote: Fuck this I'm just going to sheep Flavor

Clearly he's not going to work with me and he's conftown so whatever

I'll graciously accept getting vigged tonight if Flavor is wrong

VOTE: cw

Pedit: okay that makes me feel slightly better about this vote
unvote for now.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:11 am

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UNVOTE:

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